Re: [問題] 天份?王建民有比較差?

作者: WillWaiting (Creep)   2015-03-19 06:30:59
※ 引述《YenChinBiao (阿標)》之銘言:
: 說到天份,就是曹與郭泓志最被人家在講天份。
: 王建民則是被定位成苦練型,
: 可是天份的真正條件是什麼?
: 都在講因為曹郭球速有多快多快,
: 這就是天份的最主要要素之一嗎?
: 但王巔峰時 先發也是155在飆的啊
: 難道就是因為個性太低調,始終沒有什麼太具話題的歷程心路(
: 19勝那些後來的成就就別提了)
: 最後陳偉殷就更不用提了,在這裡幾乎都被下隱身術了
曹錦輝,郭泓志,王建民的天份都很好啦
只是曹錦輝跟郭泓志比王又再好一點
郭泓志的天份不用講了
光他在小聯盟第一場投球的十個打者裡就三振七個
只有兩個人能摸到球打成軟弱無力滾地球就可以知道他有健康時多威
道奇的亞洲事務部助理Scott Akasaki當時看他比賽
結束就打電話給他爸 (他爸最愛的球員是Sandy Koufax)
"爸,我知道我從沒看過Sandy Koufax,但我看到了郭泓志"
不過這場最後一球 郭的韌帶就斷了....
當然 郭後來屠殺大聯盟的武器跟他一開始的武器一樣 都是一顆很殺的速球
http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/players/cards/27087
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/leagues/mlb/rockies/02top10.html
曹錦輝在2000球季結束時是BA名列第15的新秀
2001剛受傷那時的評語是
Strengths: Tsao has the makings of a dominant power pitcher. He has a
legitimate mid-90s fastball and an excellent slider he can throw anytime in
the count. He has a good feel for pitching, particularly at such a young age.
Tsao also has shown an ability to throw strikes and is a quick study.
優點 曹有很不錯的95mile左右速球跟很殺的滑球 具備當power pitcher的條件
Weaknesses: Obviously, missing the bulk of last season and not being expected
to be ready at the start of 2001 will rob Tsao of what he needs most:
experience. He was so dominant in his native Taiwan that he is still learning
about the demands of success in the big leagues. The work required to come
back from Tommy John surgery should give him an idea of the effort involved.
There’s a strong feeling that his lack of an offseason throwing program set
the stage for his elbow problem. Tsao has such a good
slider that at times he’ll forget to use his fastball. He did begin throwing
a two-seam fastball early last year to give hitters a different look.
缺點是剛受傷要復原,還有滑球太殺有時會忘記用他的速球
王建民
http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/players/cards/27557
從來沒入選BA百大新秀
最好的排名是2002在洋基自家農場排第七
他在2004剛學會sinker的評語是這樣
The most likely cause for the increase in hits allowed is a lack of command
over his fastball and/or breaking pitches. Wang is a command pitcher and ,
without blazing stuff, he'll live and die by his control. Wang features four
good pitches, a simple and fluid delivery, and a calm demeanor that is a rare
bonus for a player his age. His fastball generally tops out at around 95 mph,
but he tends to range closer to the low 90s. He also features a good splitter
and good slider.The solid mechanics should help him avoid future injury,but as
was stated before, he seems to continue to be an injury risk.
王是控球型投手,沒有令人驚豔的球種,靠控球吃飯
他的速球可以到95mile 但大部份在low 90
他有好的指叉跟滑球,他的投球機制讓他有避免受傷的機會
但他好像還是有高受傷的風險
看到王建民以前的球探報告 你只會想說這誰呀
把名字遮住不看這完全跟當初2005~2009在大聯盟的王建民是完全不同人啊
總之在小聯盟前期這三人是這樣的
曹:速球球威不錯 滑球很殺
郭:速球超殺 滑球不錯
王:速球不錯 指叉不錯 滑球不錯 控球不錯
曹跟郭這兩個都有一種power pitch和一個不錯的球種的投手
只要再練出一種average的球種就可以變成ace級的投手
而王缺乏一種power pitch一般預估的天花板是比其他兩人低的
誰知道他忽然在2A練出power pitch..
不過郭泓志如果健康的話應該屠殺大聯盟就是..
作者: nanako81240 (呆魚-v-)   2015-03-19 07:39:00
青棒來說王是不錯 但是曹郭只能用怪物來形容
作者: wilsonno1 (您是地質系的嗎)   2015-03-19 07:52:00
如果健康的話……(默
作者: sportagent (亂看一通)   2015-03-19 08:06:00
郭入選明星賽那年的確已經證明他有屠殺MLB的能力只可惜.....
作者: monkshood   2015-03-19 08:09:00
只可惜……
作者: miwy (米威麥威米歪?)   2015-03-19 08:24:00
台灣出產的投手 幾乎都是只可惜......
作者: nba10346 (川)   2015-03-19 08:49:00
鄵妳妹的教練

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