[討論] 若日尼奧真的太廢了嗎?

作者: JamesCaesar (首席百人隊長)   2019-01-24 04:17:03
https://twitter.com/goal/status/1086754756536750081
費迪南抨擊 "若日尼奧傳球2000次,沒有助攻,不會防守,不會跑,攻防都沒用。"
是真的嗎?
1. https://twitter.com/SydWechuli/status/1085610020018913285
本季神傳 + 隊友放槍大特輯
"Man he delivers some peaches. We just need better finishers..."
2. 官網賽後數據,僅擷取12月之後有提到防守數據的部分
#1S5uZrCt 若日尼奧是藍軍陣中攔截最多的,有三次。
#1SAVfXxx 魯迪格還有三次搶斷成功,與若日尼奧的數據一樣。
#1SBlbA0Q 若日尼奧是我們搶斷最多的球員,有四次搶下球權。
#1SDWrwkk 坎特是藍軍搶斷最多的球員,完成五次,若日尼奧有四次搶斷成功。
#1SEpGuk7 若日尼奧有四次成功搶斷,是切爾西球員中最多的。
3. 很多人說最近快回英國的傳球大師米克爾都比只會回傳的若日尼奧強,是真的嗎?
https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2019/1/14/18181042/believe-it-or
-not-jorginho-can-pass-forward-and-does
By simongabriel Jan 14, 2019, 12:06am GMT
Fact #1 — Jorginho does in fact pass forward — 66% of the time, in
fact. Of his 1997 total pass attempts in league play this
season, 1318 have been “forward”.
若日尼奧66%的傳球都是向前傳。
Fact #2 — Jorginho doesn't just recycle possession — 27.4% of his total
passes have targeted the final third.
若日尼奧27.4%的傳球都是傳到進攻區域。
Fact #3 — He does make long passes — 50 of them so far, of 72 attempts.
A nice 69% rate, his best since 2013-14, when he first moved to
Napoli.
若日尼奧長傳成功率69%,六年來最好。
Fact #4 — Jorginho makes forward passes in the final third — Of his 95.1
average pass attempts per match, 24.1 of them are forward
passes in the final third. 33.6 of them are forward passes in
the middle third.
若日尼奧每場平均傳球95.1次,平均24.1次是在進攻區域向前傳球,平均33.6次在中
場向前傳球。
https://i.imgur.com/wOHymh1.png 前22輪傳球區域、傳球成功率、向前傳球比率
https://i.imgur.com/dTIZb8V.png 傳球次數比率
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgaHcgNO94c
戰術分析 - 卻爾西 "太" 依賴若日尼奧嗎?
5. https://twitter.com/AKINTESEGUN/status/1087307010918567936
非本隊球迷闡述組織型後腰 'Regista' 作用討論串,很長,僅列出關鍵數據和結論
Ferdinand lashed at him that he has no contribution when it comes to
goals, assists and tackles. I am not surprised that an English manager
hasn't won the league in the last 20 yrs. Jorginho's contribution in
Chelsea's defensive third is vital in the sarriball system of total
football. Let's take a look at Jorginho's stats for the season:
Ball Touches - 2312 1st in the EPL
Passes - 2077 1st in the EPL
Through balls - 16 2nd in the EPL behind David Luiz
Forward passes - 428 1st in the EPL
Pass accuracy - 85.3 % 1st
Chances created from opened play - 0.87 per game 1st
Defensive third passes 318 1st
Forward passes in the middle third - 299 1st in the EPL
Defensive third passes - 92 1st in the EPL.
People has called for Kante to be used as a Regista in place of Jorginho.
When faced with high pressing teams like Tottenham, City, Liverpool and
the likes, Kante would bulge under pressure. The ability of Jorginho to
read the game from deep makes him the best option for a team that plays
from the back without doubt.
While at Napoli, Allan and hamsik could compliment him with their tackles,
passes and work rate which made them a perfect trio. Kante effectiveness
in the Sarriball system is quite minimal with his strength majorly on
tackles and interceptions and little on possession, Kovacic and Barkley
has been super inconsistent and offers the team little.
Sarriball's team is work in progress, he has accumulated more points than
Pep at this stage in Pep's first season at City. If Parades (as a third
man in the MF with kante and jorginho) and a striker (Maybe Higuain)
joins in, the team performance as a whole would be greatly improved.
6. Sideways passer or Sarri's star man? Jorginho splitting the Chelsea fanbase
https://www.goal.com/en/news/sideways-passer-or-sarris-star-man-jorginho
-splitting-the/18ihcitni19lr16vibjaufby4c
Nizaar Kinsella, Chelsea correspondent
文章很長,直接下結論
Ferdinand is wrong about Jorginho. He is not there to provide assists.
That wasn't his role in a wonderful Napoli side that racked up a
club-record 91 points in Serie A last season. His job is to retain
possession and then get the ball to others so that they can make something
happen in the final third.
The problem is that Chelsea have problems in every area of the field. Many
players still look confused by Sarri's system and the Italian always said
that it would take at least a year for them to adapt.
Jorginho may be the poster boy of 'Sarriball' but he's not the man behind
it. Therefore, he shouldn't be blamed for its present failings. He
definitely needs to improve but, at the end of the day, he's just doing
his job.
7. 最後要請費迪南的前隊友出場一下.....
https://twitter.com/akinjide_/status/1087657784055906304
I'm shocked he made that statement about Jorginho when he played with
Carrick and always defends Busquets
https://twitter.com/__tunde/status/1087019365281812480
Carrick played 18 premier league seasons with 40 assists. Roughly 2 per
season. Ferdinand is here tearing into Jorginho when he was his team mate
for years.
https://twitter.com/CopyOfOne/status/1087025528769576962
曼聯球迷: This Jorginho debate reminds me of when our fans hated
Carrick (even after masterclass vs Roma) because he wasn't running and
tackling like Keane used to do.
https://twitter.com/eliosalerno87/status/1087299078277550080
My point is, people who are judging Jorginho do not fully understand what
he is capable of at his best. As I have mentioned previously, the role
Jorginho plays in a team has never been fully appreciated in the PL. They
never appreciated Carrick until he retired, says enough.
作者: z83420123 (VoLTsRiNe)   2019-01-24 04:33:00
最近倒是真的肉眼可見的累了 一堆簡單的都開始失誤 季初不太可能見到
作者: GroveStreet (jerseyfan)   2019-01-24 04:39:00
超巧~才剛向z大請教過這個問題XDD
作者: Drogba11 (德羅球球球球球)   2019-01-24 04:41:00
瓜看上的球員能差到哪邊去 趕快處理若鳥的替補才是重點
作者: GroveStreet (jerseyfan)   2019-01-24 05:12:00
不過高層還有其他目標嗎? 大巴黎開給帕雷德斯的那種報價我們不跟也罷
作者: Courtois (#13)   2019-01-24 05:14:00
結果替補米克爾(?
作者: aeoleron (拿出骨氣來w)   2019-01-24 08:17:00
推推 若鳥最近我覺得是疲勞加上隊友不跑動魯本受傷 柯瓦巴克利真的要加油
作者: Chelsex (清新 專業)   2019-01-24 08:24:00
之前薩里說過最近狀態差 沒替補疲勞整場教練也沒別的法子這幾場輸球感覺就沒plan B 換人同一套 效果也不彰而且若日被針對出球就更難..旁邊中場邊衛也是馬上被緊逼
作者: chelsea17 (切爾西憶起)   2019-01-24 11:24:00
替補深度不夠啊...隊友錯置打不上來不給力
作者: faelone (æ··æ··)   2019-01-24 12:49:00
感覺隊上體能有落差,像呂迪格都沒有上半季有活力
作者: FrankLampard (被擊沉了)   2019-01-24 13:07:00
沒輪換是主因,賽程密、強度高,疲勞撞牆期沒休息就很難繼續維持狀態
作者: sfh20230 (pig3)   2019-01-24 14:59:00
瓜也不是沒看錯過
作者: GroveStreet (jerseyfan)   2019-01-24 15:32:00
我對若日鳥印象比較深刻的表現是聯賽戰平利物浦那一場,藉由後場快速導腳讓對手前場三叉戟的瘋狂逼搶都無功而返
作者: KurtZouma (Sinner666)   2019-01-24 18:29:00
費迪南的話聽聽就好==之前還說什麼Newcastle有死胖子是福氣
作者: Drogba11 (德羅球球球球球)   2019-01-24 19:40:00
打逼出來挺若鳥
作者: SilverBullet (C'est la vi)   2019-01-24 22:29:00
有疑問的部分是:所謂的SarriBall那套在英超是否能行得通?另外,我們目前的人員配置是否能在這體系之下發揮特長?至少就目前看來,我們的陣容(天份組成)可能更適合玩孔蒂的那套三後衛現在看起來我們最好的防守球員(坎特)和進攻球員(阿札爾)都踢得很彆扭,犧牲掉球員特質又沒有提升戰績,教練(和他的愛將)被鞭也是必然

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