[閒聊] 2.0.4 變動與秘境傳奇掉落分析

作者: serialhon (人生如夢)   2014-04-08 12:16:41
http://ppt.cc/T0nc
Legendary Drop Rates Inside and Out of Rifts [Graphs], Killing Malthael On T6
At Level 1, Bagstone's Pure Tank Monk Build
By JustTryAnother 58 minutes ago
[Reminder] RoS First Patch - 2.0.4 Datamined Class Changes
A patch hit Blizzard's servers almost 24 hours ago and it contained a lot of
Crusader changes as well as several other changes for other classes. What you
see there is probably just a part of the patch that's going to be applied
with the upcoming scheduled maintenance.
2.0.4 聖教軍 比其他職業 buff 更多 這聽起來很酷~~~~
Legendary Drop Rates Inside and Out of Rifts [Graphs]
A great analysis of the Legendary drop chances was posted by Galiks* on our
Theorycrafting and Analysis forum. If you've been wondering what the use of
Rifts is compared to just killing random monsters outside of them, he gives a
lot of answers, depending on your Magic Find and preferred Torment level.
There are two ways to calculate the drop rates and he shows the results of
both of them, putting them side by side, so that everyone can draw their own
conclusions:
Here are some of the conclusions he's drawn from this graph:
傳奇掉落分析如下
Torment 1 rifting is slightly worse than drop rates from Torment 3
non-rifting.
Torment 2 rifting is equal to Torment 4 non-rifting.
Torment 3 rifting is slightly better than Torment 5 non-rifting.
Torment 4-6 rifting is better than Torment 6 non-rifting.
秘境T1 略< 非秘境T3
秘境T2 = 非秘境T4
秘境T3 略> 非秘境T5
秘境T4-T6 > 非秘境T6
And here are some of the conclusions about the difference Magic Find makes in
terms of drop rates inside Nephalem Rifts:
加入MF後的分析
Wearing no MF inside a Torment 2 rift is equivalent to Torment 4 farming
outside of a rift
Wearing 50 MF inside a Torment 2 rift is equivalent to Torment 5 farming
outside of a rift
Wearing 150 MF inside a Torment 2 rift is slightly less than Torment 6
farming outside of a rift
Wearing 300 MF inside a Torment 2 rift is greater than Torment 6 farming
outside of a rift, and equivalent to Torment 5 farming inside of a rift with
no MF
For more details and Q&A, hop to the original topic and decide how worth it
Rifts are.
MF0: 秘境T2 = 非秘境T4
MF50: 秘境T2 = 非秘境T5
MF150: 秘境T2 略< 非秘境T6
MF300: 秘境T2 > 非秘境T6 = MF0 秘境T5
Killing Malthael On T6 At Level 1
It turns out it's completely possible to kill Malthael on Torment 6 with a
brand new character. There is a slight trick of course and if you don't like
anything resembling a cheat, you might just want to to move along. If you're
up for learning how this "magic" happens, check out the trick in the spoiler
box and the video going along with it.
1級殺T6馬瑟爾 這也很酷~~~~~
Spoiler (click to hide)
The trick is equipping a Hellfire ring with Dexterity and it will give you
over 100% dodge chance at level 1:
秘訣: 裝備地獄火敏戒 (+閃躲100%up)
Bagstone's Pure Tank Monk Build
Bagstone made some modifications to his Pure Tank Monk Build and is now
looking for feedback, aside from hoping to be useful to other fellow Monks.
So check his topic out and share your thoughts if you've tried it out or if
you've got theories without having to test it.
坦僧構想中.......
作者: thesky14 (七夜)   2014-04-08 12:19:00
所以目前秘境掉寶增加還沒實裝嗎?
作者: teddygoodgoo (默)   2014-04-08 12:19:00
這最後一項現在還有用? 這可是刷材料最佳解
作者: icefrog (冰蛙)   2014-04-08 12:20:00
都是唬爛.....還是人品 我打T6秘境有過一輪6光 也有5輪沒
作者: kyo76312 (餅乾)   2014-04-08 12:20:00
有用阿 問題要打很久............................非常久
作者: edarthur47 (宗)   2014-04-08 12:21:00
我尋寶有撐到300了 快改...
作者: wdcr (無敵超人)   2014-04-08 12:21:00
都是人品 無差
作者: qscgg (QSC)   2014-04-08 12:22:00
最佳解咧...你是想打多久啊XD
作者: teddygoodgoo (默)   2014-04-08 12:22:00
自己鍛造武器+紅寶呢? 會打比較快嗎
作者: Sadim (.........)   2014-04-08 12:22:00
秘境掉寶增加已經實裝了阿
作者: t1520061217 (YiS)   2014-04-08 12:23:00
而且打完就升級了吧
作者: bloodruru (心在哪 答案就在哪)   2014-04-08 12:24:00
最好t2密境有這麼神奇 追的上t4 真的假的? XD
作者: spy9527 (實事求是,以理服人)   2014-04-08 12:26:00
無感
作者: kgb1019 (小凡)   2014-04-08 12:27:00
無感 打T2秘境 3.4場連個魂都沒噴
作者: bye2007 ( )   2014-04-08 12:27:00
1級殺T6馬瑟爾?? 這是怎麼搞的??
作者: thesky14 (七夜)   2014-04-08 12:27:00
看來不用刷喉了 打T5裂喉很無聊 打T2秘境比較有趣
作者: CrazyR (無聊是慢性毒藥。)   2014-04-08 12:28:00
T2秘境真的滿好掉的 刷個一場十來分打個一兩個小時大家都有3~4左右
作者: spy9527 (實事求是,以理服人)   2014-04-08 12:28:00
看來隨從又要塞滿MF裝了
作者: henry1234562 (亨利二十三)   2014-04-08 12:28:00
已經說啦 帶獄火妖戒 敏捷可以讓閃避率100%
作者: aggressorX (阿沖)   2014-04-08 12:29:00
酷你媽 nerf天火去屎吧
作者: gpc (gpc)   2014-04-08 12:29:00
一堆吸飽哥不解釋 同T4有人一場3光 有人10場0光
作者: Meds (F)   2014-04-08 12:29:00
也要看秘境怪物密度吧
作者: CrazyR (無聊是慢性毒藥。)   2014-04-08 12:30:00
怨念好重@@
作者: zooxalju (不吃魚的貓)   2014-04-08 12:30:00
我打T3都沒感覺什麼掉寶啊
作者: aggressorX (阿沖)   2014-04-08 12:31:00
這根本唬爛 打了整晚T3祕境 什麼洨都沒有
作者: s881720   2014-04-08 12:31:00
BZ:聖騎整體變動Z>B
作者: CrazyR (無聊是慢性毒藥。)   2014-04-08 12:32:00
BZ:聖騎整體變動Z>B
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 12:34:00
秘境如果抽到神圖真的超爽
作者: edarthur47 (宗)   2014-04-08 12:35:00
我稱到300打T4明顯有差 組隊一個0一個300對比下
作者: et310   2014-04-08 12:35:00
祕境Z>B? 尾王常常連遺忘都不噴還敢說有感 問號
作者: wyiwyi (紙片宅)   2014-04-08 12:36:00
我打寶裝的拆了....
作者: hollowland (顛倒鐘)   2014-04-08 12:37:00
聖騎整體變動Z>B 林杯第一隻就玩十字軍 真的Z>B
作者: thewid (THEWIND)   2014-04-08 12:37:00
T3 5場0光 兩忘魂...
作者: zooxalju (不吃魚的貓)   2014-04-08 12:37:00
現在能撐MF的都是有留舊裝的吧
作者: hollowland (顛倒鐘)   2014-04-08 12:38:00
實際上沒專武哭哭歐的情況還是沒多大改善..
作者: tribeswf (挫冰小哥)   2014-04-08 12:40:00
我怎麼覺得t1秘境比普通福袋團還難掉...
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 12:40:00
凱恩套有MF
作者: gladopo (glad)   2014-04-08 12:40:00
普通刷得快吧其實我覺得最會掉的就是普通福袋團了...
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 12:41:00
凱恩 黃寶 追隨者配拿各 在不損失戰力下MF100不難
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 12:42:00
150..除非自己也拿拿各或舊裝 但是戰力會打折
作者: gladopo (glad)   2014-04-08 12:43:00
150就靠個頂拿各吧 ,DPS掉是會掉,但應該還可以接受
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 12:44:00
MF 只有1/10有作用 也就是多個30%掉寶有感你要說多有用我持保留態度
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 12:45:00
底層的基數越小 就算給你50%你也不太有感的
作者: CrazyR (無聊是慢性毒藥。)   2014-04-08 12:45:00
根據一些人的態度 就算掉落率調得再高 還是有人會哭哭
作者: pipiispipi   2014-04-08 12:47:00
不管怎樣都會有人靠北的 人是很貪的
作者: edarthur47 (宗)   2014-04-08 12:48:00
MF300的打到4件 MF0打到0-1件 實際體驗 同時間跑圖
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 12:48:00
mf加減稱阿不影響戰力就OK
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 12:51:00
...你跑了多少次阿...要是結果反過來你是不是要說MF沒用
作者: kroutony (bingbing)   2014-04-08 12:51:00
某些人的想法就是最好每分鐘都噴傳奇才叫做有感
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 12:52:00
能撐加減撐沒錯 我比較想知道現在MF稱最高的能爽打T幾?
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 12:54:00
大概也只能穿凱恩吧XD
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 12:55:00
還是不太懂BZ要這樣NERF MF的用意...特定裝備才出還給你效用只有1/10
作者: vi000246 (Vi)   2014-04-08 12:56:00
我寧願用一百個魂換一個裂片
作者: henry1234562 (亨利二十三)   2014-04-08 12:59:00
其實他願意讓我死息換遺魂我就很感激了
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 13:02:00
樓上這是好想法...如果可以跟WOW一樣 死息可以當貨幣的話...來一個傳材商人感覺也不錯...
作者: hollowland (顛倒鐘)   2014-04-08 13:04:00
反正都是帳榜 這想法好像不錯...
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 13:05:00
死息換血岩也爽 現在死息根本太多
作者: zooxalju (不吃魚的貓)   2014-04-08 13:06:00
靠刷T6岡母賺死息....
作者: teddygoodgoo (默)   2014-04-08 13:08:00
我去打了馬瑟爾,大約1分鐘就死了,不過啥都沒噴是因為開冒險的關係嗎?
作者: MOONY135 (談無慾)   2014-04-08 13:21:00
你是首刷嗎?
作者: Foot (Foot)   2014-04-08 13:29:00
地獄火妖戒那邊是什麼意思?
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 13:33:00
等級一穿妖戒100%閃避 之前就有人說過
作者: Foot (Foot)   2014-04-08 13:34:00
感謝解答
作者: CCFACE (楊皮)   2014-04-08 13:36:00
我想問一個白癡的...請問一定要過50門檻?還是有總比沒有好
作者: rayallen3001 (琴酒)   2014-04-08 13:40:00
機率是數學的玄學啊~一切還是看人品最實在
作者: callmelanpo (陳亨利)   2014-04-08 13:47:00
我寧願水晶也不要死息
作者: iam0718 (999)   2014-04-08 13:57:00
秘境的掉落率整個XX 不如福袋或獵猴
作者: hitsukix (胖胖)   2014-04-08 15:32:00
那是概率不是一定要50,150 要50的話去作個凱恩套就有了
作者: vinmo (小強)   2014-04-08 15:52:00
祕境掉寶整個有感耶...剛不到一小時噴5光 其中4把是武器

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