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剛在聽一篇日常會話的文法
不過覺得時態怪怪的
https://i.imgur.com/p8xwkWa.jpg
聽會話的確是唸were
為什麼未來式不是用are呢？

語意有巧妙的差別... 用 "we are going to" 暗示已經成團了, 即使妳不能來, 也計畫好要作些什麼事情了. 用 "we were going to" 暗示還差妳一個才能成團, 如果妳不來, 原本計畫好的事情就不能作了. 後者能表達出較強的期待, 加上一點情緒勒索 XD

Pascal 可能沒注意到, 這裡會讓中文母語者困惑的點, 是在於 "語用" 而不是 "語意" ^_^

您覺得這三句在語意上有沒有差異呢?1. We are going to do something tomorrow.2. We were going to do something tomorrow.3. We decided to do something tomorrow.

的確就是一連串的情境啊, 前面的說法不能讓 Linda 早點來, 才接著說出 "紅字部分" 要她晚點還是要過來. 這種說話技巧雙方都瞭解, 所以我最早推文說的語意只能 "暗示" 而非 "明講", 因為雙方心裡都有譜後面對話可能會有其他發展. 大家以中文溝通時應該都懂, 換成英文不會就不懂了吧. (還是我又過度解讀惹) 回到原 po 的問題點, 上述三句的差異, Pascal 解釋給您了嗎?

I think you forgot to include the adverb "tomorrow" in the questions to Pascal, which is what caused OP'sconfusion in the first place. My first sentence meansthat we have a plan for tomorrow, and it's highly likely that we'll stick to that plan. The second sentence implies that there may be a change of plan. The third sentence simply states that the decision was madein the past. Please consider including those three sentences for the sake of clarity, if you wish to askPascal again.題外話, 英語相關問題推薦去 StackExchange 或 Quora 提問, 那邊有專板, 也有眾多語言專家會解答. 別的地方可能要碰點運氣, 不小心就會像 ptt 車/房/股板一樣, 上班族跑去向中學生請教 XD 先祝各位虎年行大運喔.

我的看法跟 scju 大一樣，單純字面上來看就只是在說那個決定是過去的，根本沒有額外情勒的成分，實際對話的時候那句話可以因語氣改變讓人覺得或不覺得那是情勒，而且說真的情勒是 an objective experience on the receiver's end，口說不是微積分或理論股價這種 deterministic science，within the possible realm of interpretations of a sentence, any one of them is plausible, but some are, of course, more likely to happen than others, suggesting not that there is some definite yardstick with which we could judge the likelihood of an interpretation, but that the concept of "bestness" should function more or less like a shifting window of all possible ones, with them collectively modulated by the given contextual immediacy.

我有些好奇兩位對那三個例句的解讀各為何呢? 這一串討論顯然就是因為解讀不同而引起的.

我今天跟Stacy討論，決定明天出去玩，但Linda說她不能去我今天跟Stacy討論，原本決定明天出去玩，但Linda說她不能去...中英文肯定是不一樣，但如果拿這兩句去問中文母語者：他們明天的計畫有改變嗎？我相信兩句話都不會一面倒都同一個答案。然而第二句的「原本」這兩字把明天出去的計畫改變的機率大幅提升對Pascal來說，were going to就是過去的一個決定這麼單純，類似於"太糟了吧！我們都決定要租電影跟訂披薩了！"但如果當天是為了Linda生日所辦的Sleepover趴那麼were going to代表的意義可能就不一樣了

e大的解讀是對的were going to 暗示 Stacy 預期從 "Are you free tomorrow night?" 這問題當中 得到的回覆是 "Yes" 的;所以得到"No, I'm not." 的回覆後, 原本已經計畫好並可能告訴 Linda 的活動已經泡湯, 成為舊信息但之所以選擇依舊說出來, 確實有較強的失望語氣在裡面也就是e大說的: 原本已把你(Linda)假定成團員的意思(打電話之前的預期心理)如今計畫少了一人, 就不能確定 rent a movie and orderpizza 會不會繼續進行下去 ...是情勒(積極希望對方改變主意) 或失望(被動接受結果)的解讀其實需要聽實際的對話才能得知了喔看了後面還有未完的對話: Can your parents find...(ry應該可以直接確定是偏向e大說的情勒(或者說強烈希望對方重新考慮)的語氣了

這相當於 我們「本來」打算 rent a movie and order pizza的那個「本來」囉至於這個「本來」代表什麼意涵，我會覺得是讓語氣更委婉，不要讓Stacy覺得 We will do it without you anyway.

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痾... from time to time... lol

結果被 moderator 文質彬彬地 "各不打五十大板" XD 所以Stacy 說的話有可能包含暗示; 也有可能 Stacy 沒想要作暗示, 但自己當下也不知道她的話可以包含暗示 XD 也就是說我們要和 Stacy 夠熟才能懂她這句話的意思. 但這似乎否定了不少從教材學英文的價值 XDI'll let cuyerlin to figure out the meaning of that phrase himself ^_^

Well, you're too sweet. You don't have to worry abtme. Hope you find what you were looking for on that forum ^_^

I wasn't really worrying about you, but now I kinda do because there are two grammar mistakes in your lastsentence.I'm sorry, that was a cheap shot. We all make grammarmistakes from time to time.I suppose we all have better things to do than havingpetty fights on bbs. My parents were wondering why Ikept peeking at my phone at the dinner table ^_^Here's wishing everyone a happy Chinese new year. I'll see y'all after the holidays.