[情報] Massa考慮發起2008新加坡戰比賽無效之訴~

作者: Scent56 (香民56)   2023-04-07 15:06:09
情報來源:
1. WTF1 https://tinyurl.com/mv948yzu
2. Motorsport.com https://tinyurl.com/5cxybs79
Motorsport.com節錄
In an interview with the F1-Insider website last month, Ecclestone said he
and then FIA president Max Mosley knew of the situation “during the 2008
season.”
白髮老怪 Bernie Ecclestone日前承認他與時任FIA主席Max Mosley已經知道2008年賽季出
現違規現象。
He added: “We decided not to do anything for now. We wanted to protect the
sport and save it from a huge scandal. That's why I used angelic tongues to
persuade my former driver Nelson Piquet to keep calm for the time being.
但是兩人爲了保護F1的名聲選擇不對此時追究,Ecclestone也勸説了小皮龜保持冷靜。
“Back then, there was a rule that a world championship classification after
the FIA awards ceremony at the end of the year was untouchable. So
Hamilton was presented with the trophy and everything was fine.
當時規則有説明一旦WDC冠軍獎杯已頒發,任何賽果將無法再更改。Hamilton就這樣領取
了2008 WDC獎杯。
“We had enough information in time to investigate the matter. According to
the statutes, we should have cancelled the race in Singapore under these
conditions.
根據條例,撞車門事件足以讓2008年新加坡戰賽事取消。
“That means it would never have happened for the championship standings. And
then Felipe Massa would have become world champion and not Lewis Hamilton.”
這也意味著Felipe Massa, 并非Lewis Hamilton成爲2008年WDC。
扣除2008年新加坡戰車手排行榜:
1. Felipe Massa - 97pts
2. Lewis Hamilton - 92pts
Massa回應:
“This is very sad, to know the result of this race was supposed to be
cancelled and I would have a title. In the end, I was the one who lost the
most with this result. So, we are going after it to understand all this.”
“這很令人傷心,得知這場比賽是應該被取消的,而我應該得到總冠軍的。最後,這是一
個只有我受傷的世界。所以我們將采取進一步的行動來瞭解情況。
Massa accept that his chances of finding any route to challenge the result
are slim, but he insists that does not put him off looking into it.
Massa知道勝訴機會很渺茫,但是這不阻擋他的行動。
"There are rules, and there are many things that, depending on the country,
you cannot go back after 15 years to resolve a situation," he said.
“雖然規則存在,但是15年前的事情未必能獲得平反。”
“But I intend to study the situation; study what the laws say, and the
rules. We have to have an idea of what is possible to do.”
“但是我想把情況理清楚,瞭解法律與規則。我們要知道有什麽是可能做到的。”
Massa is clear though that his motivation to look once again into the matter
is not being fuelled by the desire for financial compensation.
“I would never go after it thinking financially,” he said. “I would go
after it thinking about justice.
Massa清楚追究此事件的動機不是爲了尋求補償,而是尋求正義。
“I think if you've been punished for something that wasn't your fault, and
it's the product of a robbery, a stolen race, justice has to be served.
“如果你是因爲不是你的錯誤,而是因爲一場被竊取的比賽,正義必須履行。”
“In fact, the right situation is to cancel the result of that race. It is
the only justice that can be done in a case like this.”
“實際上正確的做法應該是取消比賽,這是這種情況下可以實現的正義。”
Massa said it was not uncommon for other sports to amend results many years
after competitions when fresh evidence of cheating had emerged.
“We have already seen other situations happening in sports, such as Lance
Armstrong (cyclist), who was proven to have doped, and he lost all the
titles. What is the difference?”
Massa也舉例了多年後更改賽果的案例,并以脚踏車賽事Lance Armstrong因爲被抓到服用
違禁藥物而被取消冠軍資格。
When asked if he had spoken to his former Ferrari team about the matter,
Massa said: “Not yet.”
當被詢問是否與法拉利車隊就此事聯絡,Massa回應道:“尚未聯絡。”
作者: FTICR (FT-ICR)   2023-04-07 15:28:00
比賽無效(叭~~~) 比賽無效~~~ (破音)
作者: Transposon (跳死你)   2023-04-07 15:50:00
上周一鍵復原,現在難道要一鍵刪除?
作者: pclemens (愛心哥三段)   2023-04-07 16:01:00
七冠王有什麼了不起 人人得兒豬隻啊
作者: www1025 (G)   2023-04-07 16:01:00
馬薩姓丁嗎
作者: MikaMax (炎刃)   2023-04-07 16:15:00
法家最近一位WDC看看有沒有機會換個名字XD
作者: astushi   2023-04-07 16:23:00
哇喔 真的欸 上一個已經16年前了
作者: welly7566 (Hello! Project)   2023-04-07 16:29:00
Massa那年真的很可惜QQ
作者: e1472584 (冰淇淋武士)   2023-04-07 17:03:00
作者: jkl15261526 (marshmallooo)   2023-04-07 17:49:00
Glock表示
作者: potatoes (potatoes)   2023-04-07 18:42:00
法拉利終於有奪冠希望了(??)
作者: luvstarrysky (愛戀星空1)   2023-04-07 18:54:00
感覺不太可能改變 太久了
作者: Inar (Inar)   2023-04-07 20:17:00
提起世界冠軍無效之訴~ (咦
作者: tiesto06202 (I'm Winner戰神)   2023-04-07 20:34:00
Demon Hill:1994順便
作者: PONANZA (電王)   2023-04-07 20:57:00
toto:不要逼我
作者: volleywayne (wayne)   2023-04-07 21:33:00
小黑表示:甘你老濕!
作者: chenghow (C大調)   2023-04-07 22:06:00
GLOCK因為一個沒換雨胎被大家不時提到,現在來說算賺到未來拉導也有機會十年後被提到的
作者: t72312 (t7231)   2023-04-07 22:08:00
2023來展望一下2008
作者: Vincent8026 (交大帥哥)   2023-04-07 22:21:00
如果馬薩拿到WDC,那法拉利無冠的持續時間就縮短一年惹~
作者: TKB5566 (我們的元首阿道夫希特勒)   2023-04-07 22:47:00
馬傻給我下去,不要拿不到冠軍就出奧步= =,這都是沒用的馬傻要怪就怪你家奇米實在太廢,廢到連僚機都當不了= =喔對了當年老漢的隊友可是KOV,所以老漢完全可以說是一打兩台法拉拉,法拉拉二打一還輸老漢,輸的理所當然不是?老漢一打二奪冠實至名歸,馬傻還是滾去路邊哭哭吧~~~~
作者: fit   2023-04-07 22:55:00
Massa: Good job Bro, Very good that(瞪)
作者: quicknick (快尼克)   2023-04-07 22:56:00
Massa說過Glock跑他自己的比賽沒問題也沒心結他只針對規則去平反https://i.imgur.com/38yCTfh.jpg
作者: fit   2023-04-07 22:57:00
什麼? 平反? 很貴的, 而且會很吃力
作者: DanielHudson (Yee)   2023-04-08 01:54:00
蛤?不是吧?Glock就是因為用乾胎硬撐才多偷了幾個Position,到最後一彎才被Hamilton搶回位置的Glock要是進Pit換雨胎會是P7完賽,留在外面硬撐反而得到P6
作者: zippa (Osk)   2023-04-08 03:55:00
30秒的世界冠軍
作者: scccc   2023-04-08 08:23:00
到底是2008的最後一站比較精彩還是2021的
作者: chenghow (C大調)   2023-04-08 09:55:00
2021煮熟的鴨子因為事故加上賽會決定所以飛摟,2008就是車隊車手策略跟判斷,畢竟那場雨真的超有戲
作者: taxlaw1991 (taxlaw91)   2023-04-08 10:01:00
這次爭議的不是08最後一場 而是撞車門那場要不要算不過沒撞車 也不保證加油就不會大蛇啊......
作者: Inar (Inar)   2023-04-08 11:10:00
因為有人召喚SC而改變結果的比賽太多了....當下知道有撞車門的事情時,記憶中也沒要求比賽成績不算
作者: likeastar ( )   2023-04-08 11:16:00
08最後一站完全沒有爭議阿XD 這反轉當然比較精彩。 撞車門真的是很低級,當初沒有不算這場就是打算混過去了說實在我覺得很多時候這些不翻跟地下賭盤有很大的關係orz 2021也承認錯誤一樣不敢翻阿,翻了隔天還活著嗎我都不知道
作者: taxlaw1991 (taxlaw91)   2023-04-08 11:57:00
不用地下 地上的博彩公司絕對叫FIA賠到脫褲倒店出去的回不來 改結果的賭客來討彩金 公司當然找FIA算帳 你FIA賠得起嗎
作者: kltnlious (玄櫻)   2023-04-08 12:58:00
選舉無效之訴 叭~
作者: scottnet (Scott)   2023-09-08 18:29:00
蔡主席...= =
作者: wsx1678904 (哇咧QQ)   2023-09-08 18:30:00
請蔡主席放過紅牛
作者: leoturkey (灰ㄍㄟ)   2023-09-08 18:31:00
蔡主席XDD
作者: ArSaBuLu (阿薩不魯)   2023-09-08 18:38:00
F1不是躺著開 是開到躺下來惹
作者: F35B   2023-09-08 18:39:00
蔡主席:我們尊重紅牛的閉關修練
作者: wtsph (Plz don't say u r 雷姬)   2023-04-08 13:35:00
雙倍新人雙倍101頒獎台之爭
作者: airphone   2023-04-08 14:46:00
都過了那麼久又舊事重提 白髮老怪真是夠了竟然你老怪當初掌權時選擇冷處理漠視 現在就別再叫了
作者: tomwdc (等待)   2023-04-08 23:59:00
不無道理
作者: magicianegg (Egg)   2023-04-09 12:22:00
富士不要腦衝去撞小黑早就WDC了

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