Re: [新聞] NASA 公布 「EM DRIVE」實驗成功

作者: Antler5566 (鹿茸五六)   2015-11-09 14:08:36
魯科學家導讀:
※ 引述《okura (大倉)》之銘言:
: 1.媒體來源:
: 英國dailymail
: 2.完整新聞標題:
: Is deep space travel a step closer to reality? Nasa reveals successful test
: of 'impossible' fuel-free engine that breaks the laws of physics
: 3.完整新聞內文:
: 摘要:
: EM Drive Fuel-free engine could take a spacecraft to Mars in 10 weeks.
: Creates thrust by bouncing microwaves in chamber, using solar power.
: Nasa has conducted more tests using an improved experimental process.
: Test designed to remove errors from earlier study but still produced thrust.
: Scientists still aren't sure how this happens as it defies the laws of physics.
: 全文:
: An 'impossible' fuel-free engine, which could take a humans to Mars in just
: 10 weeks, is still defying science after another batch of tests by Nasa
: suggested the thruster does work.
: The so-called EM Drive creates thrust by bouncing microwaves around in an
: enclosed chamber, and uses only solar power.
: When the concept was first proposed, it was considered implausible because it
: went against the laws of physics - and subsequent tests of the engine have
: shown that the idea could revolutionise space travel.
: March posted on the Nasa Spaceflight forum in reply to an unpublished paper
: that claims the unaccounted thrust is generated by something known as the
: Lorentz force.
EM Drive原理宣稱是利用勞倫茲力產生產生衝力
: The Lorentz force is the force that is exerted by a magnetic field on a
: moving electric charge.
勞倫茲力是磁場作用在移動電荷上的磁力
各位修過普通物理, 應該知道移動電荷在磁場受力
_ _ _ _ _
F=q (v x B) = q [(ds/dt) xB ]
但是要讓太空船加速, 此磁力必須作功來產生動能
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
W= F.s = q (v x B). s = q [(ds/dt) xB ]. s = 0
而磁力跟位移的外積, 再跟位移取內積必為零
所以磁力必不做功!!
這則新聞裡提到動力來源是羅倫茲力, 肯定是錯的
看到這邊, 已經可以知道這則新聞必定是唬爛
作者: StevenAn (Steven An)   2015-11-09 14:10:00
推一個
作者: limitex (界王)   2015-11-09 14:10:00
忘光了啦幹
作者: yyff   2015-11-09 14:10:00
我承認我有看沒有懂 囧
作者: iecju520 (哎依喜德魯)   2015-11-09 14:11:00
我一開始也覺得是假的
作者: h4k (4kkkk)   2015-11-09 14:12:00
快推以免人家說我們看不懂
作者: tenninetall (愛只需要張開)   2015-11-09 14:13:00
原來如此 師爺你給翻譯翻譯
作者: douglasjs (帥到吐)   2015-11-09 14:13:00
不是有衝力,有就該研究看看
作者: signm (sin)   2015-11-09 14:14:00
可是新聞不是說已經做出來了?
作者: bernon (沒什麼)   2015-11-09 14:14:00
早就說是假的了,原PO英雄所見略同 (喂
作者: Murasaki0110 (麥當勞歡樂送)   2015-11-09 14:14:00
說中文
作者: tsubasawolfy (悠久の翼)   2015-11-09 14:14:00
因為可以不用燃料掛個太陽能板就能持續作功吧
作者: L0v35 (是零不是歐)   2015-11-09 14:15:00
DailyMail就是假外媒阿 水準跟台媒差不多
作者: tsubasawolfy (悠久の翼)   2015-11-09 14:15:00
比起現在用"漂"的好上一點點
作者: L0v35 (是零不是歐)   2015-11-09 14:16:00
更別說這新聞講的是半年前的東西
作者: jackals60 (Sixty Jackals)   2015-11-09 14:17:00
沒錯,我的paper上也有提到這觀點
作者: cdcardabc (覺得難笑就給個推)   2015-11-09 14:17:00
簽名檔是沙小XDDD
作者: lolucky531 (倫倫)   2015-11-09 14:18:00
嗯 跟我想的差不多
作者: DIIIV (DiV)   2015-11-09 14:19:00
電磁學呀 略懂略懂

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