Re: [問卦] 烏克蘭徵兵徵到57歲了?

作者: A6 (短ID真好)   2023-06-14 01:08:57
※ 引述《A6 (短ID真好)》之銘言:
: 烏克蘭這幾天有新聞
: https://youtu.be/NHvM7FWKLk8
: 現在烏克蘭計畫要將預備役的年齡 從27下降到25
: 評論大概有烏克蘭人解釋了 影響是什麼 我看他的意思大概是
: 以前27歲以下役男 在完成訓練之前是不能直接派上前線的
: 超過27歲會被自動視為預備役動員 可上前線
: 現在這個年齡計畫下修到25
: 也就是超過25歲 不管有沒有接受過完整的軍事訓練 都有可能會上前線
烏克蘭樂團 ban junket
原訂於6.9號敖德薩舉版的慈善音樂會
https://imgur.com/j08Nalc
因為有團員下火車後先邁左腳 被敖德薩徵兵處的人帶走
所以音樂會因故取消
https://imgur.com/yyXLGnO
團長還發了篇 抨擊敖德薩徵兵處蠻橫行為的文章
不過可能團長怕自己也入伍 所以後來刪除了
https://imgur.com/UiigYup
剛剛最新貼文
https://reurl.cc/65NDEO
(大概12:37左右發的
https://imgur.com/V0w8lku
又害怕 刪了 剛我我在寫這篇 截到 ㄎㄎ )
https://imgur.com/rPwwWOv
https://imgur.com/LKfzFn8
剛剛估歌翻的意思是 團員被分配到59摩托旅
但他還是對徵兵處不爽
(全文 剛好我用翻譯複製到 我放最後 有興趣的自己去翻譯)
我知道上面一堆俄烏文 看的很頭暈
所以 來了親切的英文新聞
https://reurl.cc/QX464o
PHONES WERE TAKEN AWAY AND KEPT IN THE TCC: UKRAINIAN MUSICIANS IN ODESA WERE
SERVED WITH SUMMONSES
The artists came to the south of Ukraine to play a charity concert, and ended
up in the Military Commissariat
In Odessa issued summonses musicians of the Kyiv band Junket. They were
detained near the railway station and sent to undergo a military medical
examination. Now the artists have to be sent to the army.
This was reported by a band member Dmytro Sazonov on Facebook.
HOW MUSICIANS RECEIVED SUMMONSES
As Sazonov said, the band Junket came to Odesa by train to play a charity
concert and raise funds for victims in the Kherson region.
After the musicians got off the train, they were detained almost immediately.
According to Sazonovo, it happened when they were crossing the road.
"A patrolman appeared and asked for documents, for some reason he was
surprised that we were from Kyiv and with a concert (we told him about the
purpose of our visit), for some reason he compared us to Odessa clubs like
"Ibiza" and said that there is a war in the country, but we are here with
your music" – said Sazonov.
Then people in military uniform appeared. Since Dmytro Sazonov had a document
on postponement, he was released. Other musicians were taken by bus to the
TCC.
COMMUNICATION WITH THE ARTISTS HAS DISAPPEARED
According to the musician, his colleagues, who were taken to the Military
Commissariat, did not communicate for some time, because their phones were
taken away. Then the "detainees" passed the VLK. The medical commission
issued an opinion on fitness for service.
"Then they handed over their phones and said that in half an hour they were
leaving for training with the elite unit of the airborne assault troops." –
said the leader of Junket.
Sazonov that his colleagues were not at all ready for the fact that they
would be sent to the army in an instant, they did not even have "basic
hygiene items" on them. The musician also emphasized that he was outraged by
the work of the TCC in Odessa.
"Everyone knows, based on rumors and some facts, how Odessa TCCs work. Of
course, such statements are out of time, but estates in Spain and expensive
cars come to mind. This is all wrong and should not be like this in a country
that strives to be in the house of European values", – added the artist.
At the same time, Dmytro Sazonov stated that the delivery of summonses is a
completely normal process during the war, because artists do not have the
right to a postponement only because of their profession, and many of them
have already put on the pixel uniform.
Earlier we wrote about how to act if sent to the front without training and
equipment . We also told that in the summer can mobilize another category of
men.
ㄎㄎ
: 然後評論第一條
: С 20 до 30 для всех и для баб, когда война до 50
: с детьми в первую очередь) кто согласен?не
: т дискриминации мужиков!
: 大意
: 他媽的 女人怎麼不用上戰場 這是歧視女性
: ㄎㄎ
Друз привh.
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