[外絮] Greg: Lin與西南組五隊

作者: Landius (原來我是漆原派啊)   2016-05-17 00:34:57
(續上篇)
Jeremy Lin & Southwest Division: San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks,
Memphis Grizzlies, Houston Rockets & New Orleans Pelicans as Potential
Landing Spots
http://tinyurl.com/jz7n5tu
Posted on 15 May, 2016, by Greg in NBA
After a pretty long weekend, we're back on our offseason series of trying
to figure out which teams might be good landing spots for Jeremy Lin next
season, if he leaves the Charlotte Hornets. Up next: The Southwest division,
with the San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks, Memphis Grizzlies, Houston
Rockets and the New Orleans Pelicans under the magnifying glass.
經過了個很長的周末,我們來看如果Lin離開夏洛特黃蜂,有哪些隊伍會是好的下一隊
接著檢視西南組的5個球隊: 馬刺/小牛/灰熊/火箭/鵜鶘.
Four of the teams on this list made the playoffs this season and usually
have in recent years. Most of them have a lot of questions regarding the
point guard position heading into the summer of 2016, but it doesn't mean
they all fit.
這個球季西南組裡有4隊打入季後賽,這些球隊近年也是季後賽常客.
雖然這幾隊的控球後衛都有些問題,但這不代表這些隊伍都適合Lin.
We'll begin with the simple one – Rockets. Lin played in Houston for two
years, and the Rockets have Patrick Beverley as the only point guard
signed for next season. A player Lin is better than on offense by miles,
and just because he doesn't try to injure players on purpose doesn't make
him inferior defensively. But all that doesn't matter. The Rockets are a
solar system that revolves around the beard of James Harden. Lin should
look for life and a future elsewhere.
我們先從單純的開始 - 火箭隊.
Lin在這個球隊打了兩季,而Beverley則是下季火箭隊唯一的控衛,
在進攻上,Beverley根本看不到Lin的車尾燈,
在防守上,Lin不走Beverley會弄傷敵隊球員般的侵略性路線,也絲毫不比其遜色.
不過這些其實不是重點,火箭就像是太陽系般,圍繞著Harden那叢鬍子建構的球隊,
林應該去其他隊伍尋求更好的未來.
On to the Pelicans, who had a "disappointment waiting to happen" kind of
season, coming off making the playoffs in 2015, which only happened
because Kevin Durant was injured. The Pelicans have Jrue Holiday, who
when healthy is their starting point guard. Tyreke Evans, when healthy
(picking up on a theme here?), also loves having the ball. The bench is
pretty empty behind them, and Alvin Gentry is an interesting offensive
mind to work with. However, if the Pelicans don't move Holiday and Evans,
Lin probably will feel a little bit left out in terms of minutes and
possessions. He can probably do some very nice things with Anthony Davis.
接著是鵜鶘,也是本季讓人最失望的球隊其中之一,
曾經在去年KD受傷後,打進了季後賽.
鵜鶘的後場有只要健康就會先發擔任控衛的Holiday,
以及只要健康(嗯...,這是鵜鶘的主題曲嗎?)就會一球在手的Tyreke Evans,
在他們背後的板凳區目前是一場空,總教練Gentry也是擁有有趣進攻哲學的教練;
然而,如果鵜鶘不動這兩名球員的話,Lin在鵜鶘的上場時間和地位可能會很尷尬,
縱使Lin和AD有可能產生出令人驚豔的化學效應.
Now to three teams that make a lot more sense. We begin with the Grizzlies,
who right now don't have a head coach, but will probably have one signed
by the time it's signing season. They have no point guard heading into
next season, and Mike Conley might be tempted to go elsewhere, hoping
someone offers him the max deal, which is a risk considering his injury
issues. Lin could find a very nice niche in Memphis, but there's a very
good chance the Grizzlies have stretched their window of contending to its
limit, and jumping onboard would mean playing for a team in a weird
transition phase. Lin's fit with whoever will be the coach is another issue
that needs some further review.
接下來的三隊可能比較適合Lin也說不定.
先從灰熊說起,現在的灰熊沒有總教練,有可能會在今夏另簽新的總教練,
若Conley今夏離開灰熊尋求頂薪合約的話,但該隊要承受其傷病史的情況下,
灰熊先發控衛的位置就會空出來了,這時候Lin去灰熊會佔有一定的地位,
但由於灰熊近年主打的鐵桶陣風格已經無法再更上一層樓,
Lin可能會在灰熊渡過一個詭異的轉換期,
新任總教練是否是Lin理想的教練,這又是另一個問題.
The Dallas Mavericks looked like the team most likely to sign Lin last
season, at least for a moment or two. Deron Williams has a player option
for next season which he'll probably pick up, Devin Harris is still on the
team and J.J. Barea is also there. However, Lin is better than all three of
them. Williams has very little left in the tank, Barea is fun but you can't
really count on him besides an energy role and Harris usually harms the Mavs
more than he helps them. The Mavericks could make a very interesting place
for Lin to play in, but Mark Cuban hasn't done a great job of rebuilding
the Mavericks after the 2011 championship, and unless the Mavericks can get
rid of at least two of those contracts, they have too much money needlessly
eating cap space. In short: Lin would be very good in Dallas under Rick
Carlisle, but they have too many point guards right now as is.
小牛是去年最有可能簽下Lin的球隊.
Deron可能會繼續執行他下季的球員選擇權,而Harris和JJB一樣會在隊上,
Lin現在比前述3人更好,Deron狀態下滑中,
JJB就只是一個充滿能量的球員,Harris則是常常背刺隊友.
小牛或許可以給Lin一個不錯的位置,
但老闆Cuban尚未完成其2011年奪冠後的重建大業,
在這幾年花了太多不必要的錢導致可用的薪資空間變得很少.
簡單來說,Lin可以在Carlisle底下發揮得不錯,但現在小牛控衛實在太多了.
We finish with the Spurs, who are probably scratching their head, trying to
figure out how they lost to the Oklahoma City Thunder in the conference
semifinals. There are a number of reasons, but one of them is Manu Ginobili
looking and playing like someone who belongs in retirement, and mostly Tony
Parker finishing a rough season badly. Who knows, maybe the 2015-2016
campaign for Parker was just about trying to get over injuries, but there's
a clear sign of decline over the last two seasons, and hints that the Spurs
could need some new blood at point guard. Parker is signed on for two more
seasons at $30 million, while Patty Mills has one more year on his deal.
How does Lin fit in? He could be great, really great in San Antonio. On most
days he's better than Tony Parker is at the moment (we'll discuss his numbers
as a starter tomorrow), but the question is whether or not the Spurs are
willing to move on from Parker. He played 27.5 minutes per game when healthy
this season, while Mills got the rest, declining in points per minute. Lin
would be better for the Spurs than both of them, but only if room is made
for him. San Antonio might be one of the few places Lin would go to and
settle for less minutes than he could get somewhere else.
最後來看可能正搔著頭,想著為什麼我們會在第二輪系列賽輸給雷霆的馬刺隊.
Ginobili在場上的表現看起來像是即將退休的樣子,
Parker亦經歷了糟糕表現的一季,他在本季最大的敵人便是傷病,
兩老的狀況都顯示了馬刺需要在控衛上注入新血.
Parker合約還有2年30M,替補控衛Mills還有一年合約,Lin要怎麼融入馬刺?
Lin真的可以在馬刺表現得很棒,眼下來看若Lin表現的比Parker好,
問題是馬刺願不願意變動Parker的位置(我們明天會討論他可能先發的次數),
他健康時場均27.5分鐘,Mills則是打剩下的時間,Parker的PPM也在下降中.
Lin在馬刺應該可以表現的比他們兩個好,前提是馬刺願意讓Lin發揮,
另外馬刺或許會是Lin幾個願意去的球隊之一,就算上場時間可能更少.
【結論】
火箭: 哈登的鬍子才是本體
鵜鶘: 至少假日或Reke要有陣容上的變動
灰熊: 假設康利離隊,但灰熊未來不確定因素也很高
小牛: 後場已滿(?)
馬刺: 馬刺怎麼想才是重點
作者: AngelMAyCry (猛毒天蠍)   2016-05-17 00:43:00
期待去馬刺
作者: newgunden (年中むきゅー)   2016-05-17 01:38:00
馬刺主場對林很不利 德州根本是騎士州
作者: casman (卡)   2016-05-17 01:40:00
應該可以討論有幾隊是即使以替補身份加入林也願意的球隊馬刺對林應該非常有吸引力
作者: hutten (荷騰)   2016-05-17 07:25:00
懇請鵜鶘換掉陣中痛痛後場 考慮一下林
作者: zero4 (zero4)   2016-05-17 08:09:00
作者: springman (司布林)   2016-05-17 08:17:00
只是不知馬刺對林有沒有興趣。看來還是不會很順...
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 08:38:00
馬刺就不要想了 太夢幻了 TP還有兩年約還有其他替補可能性太低
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-05-17 08:43:00
看來 溜馬 灰熊 籃網 這3隊比較可能..
作者: donnylee (制服OL控)   2016-05-17 09:00:00
溜馬也不用看,後場太滿了!
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 09:01:00
有些是還要看他要不要留原來的 所以不明確
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-05-17 09:25:00
溜馬的新教練很不優,不推薦;76人就是要看MDA是否扶正了
作者: phix (88)   2016-05-17 09:26:00
感覺也沒幾隊能去 = =
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-05-17 09:26:00
雖然很多要看是否留原PG,不過簽約有時間差問題,很麻煩很多東西很難等來等去,要看今年對Lin是買方還是賣方市場
作者: jaywang4 (酒中狂士)   2016-05-17 09:28:00
漆原大要不要順便把我作的表貼過來啊!
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-05-17 09:29:00
MDA動向、Conley動向、Rose動向 大概這三點影響最大但這幾件不一定很快底定 甚至MDA繼續當76人助教的話很麻煩如果MDA扶正的話 76人幾乎是絕對的首選Conley若很快底定 市場上pg就Rando跟Lin比較優質 再考慮場下因素 Lin的吸引力就不見得低於軟豆如此一來談判籌碼就比較高一點 也比較有選擇權力
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-17 09:37:00
剛剛查詢了鵜鶘的薪資 發現很有趣(不單純)16-17有約的只有7人 1個球員選擇權 Gee (SG)2個球隊選擇權 不老TD (PG) + Babbitt (SG/SF射手)Gee的薪水才1.38M 我覺得會跳脫試試看有約的裡面 AD不用說 最吸金的是Asik (11M*4y)另一個內線Ajinca (5M*3y) Cunnungham (PF/SF 3M*2y)林在場上的主要競爭者Holiday剩下一年10M林的球權競爭者Evans也剩下10M一年本來還有一個Gordan 今夏約滿再見所以結論是鵜鶘很有機會 教練來自太陽勇士競爭者約短而且傷多 林如果能簽下三年約 蟄伏一下其實交易大限後 說不定能出頭 和AD搭配的畫面太美挽救Asik的畫面也太美另外 Holiday這季降為替補 說不定他本人已習慣了
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 09:55:00
都是還要再看瞜 教練怎麼樣 打啥戰數
作者: attdave (用盡一生的愛)   2016-05-17 10:00:00
我還是覺得林會留黃蜂,但不知能談到多少$$
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-17 10:04:00
鵜鶘因為這季太失敗 我覺得振作的力道會很強
作者: pttyeon (the one)   2016-05-17 10:33:00
小牛看法是林打2號吃虧 打1號成績又沒比小胖好多少 寧願賭過往有時績的小胖福袋 替補PG的話就多到滿出來馬刺空間只有替補1-2號薪水不會高跟牛板差不多想法
作者: jaywang4 (酒中狂士)   2016-05-17 10:37:00
假日哥打替補是因為他實在太痛痛,只好限制上場時間
作者: pttyeon (the one)   2016-05-17 10:48:00
evans可以客串1號太好用了不可能放 假日可能會被放掉Gordan痛痛+矮2號也不會再續約了
作者: hutten (荷騰)   2016-05-17 11:01:00
林+Evans+AD 這畫面不錯
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 11:07:00
忘了Lin是強力buff機器嗎@@?! 到時每個人又能量滿滿 刷好刷滿 身體壯的像牛 到時林就尷尬了....
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 11:31:00
小牛就不要想了 他們不缺人 球迷又...
作者: leafland (小游)   2016-05-17 11:35:00
小牛會先專注在DH,又不缺後場,不用討論吧應該說怎麼討論,小牛差不多就那樣了,根本不知林幾順位
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 11:39:00
反正不用再提那隊 其他的比較有機會
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 11:49:00
小牛還是抱著好好棒棒的5人後場吧 抱好抱滿嘿 ^_< ~+
作者: kinki999 (QQk(廢文被劣文中))   2016-05-17 11:52:00
水鳥有先發的話,跟ad組我也很想看
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 11:57:00
看到內線是AD口水都流出來了 但假日男跟古登桑處理掉先
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-17 11:59:00
Gorden約滿了Hoopshype竟然把Gordon排在Waiters後面
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 12:06:00
對厚~~"去年他選擇執行合約...太痛啦!! XD
作者: turbomons (Τ/taʊ/)   2016-05-17 12:07:00
推推
作者: darkfeather (水色)   2016-05-17 15:36:00
去年是後場大多太滿,今年則是變數太多
作者: Joba07 (騙人布)   2016-05-17 15:41:00
看起來這一組就是水鳥如果處理掉假日和EG的話 就蠻適合的其他的大概不用想太多
作者: gobby3958 (狗鼻)   2016-05-17 18:12:00
不要去水鳥阿...球場被埋球衣了吧 看今年的傷兵就知道
作者: brownhusky (fuzzy)   2016-05-17 20:27:00
挽救阿西的畫面...太驚悚惹XD 阿西在鵜鶘慘慘der
作者: Landius (原來我是漆原派啊)   2016-05-17 21:33:00
阿西除了傷病因素以外是被封印吧? 我記得這季有一場AD和RA都沒上場,他就回到雙十阿西了.
作者: bhmok (無限的可能)   2016-05-17 23:49:00
AD有要持球攻擊嗎 還是多c&s ?
作者: dreamthink (candace)   2016-05-18 09:36:00
咦,小胖不是已經跳出合約了嗎
作者: djviva (時鼠無奈)   2016-05-18 09:56:00
應該都不可能...哀
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-18 10:49:00
剛剛看完選秀順位 NO的第五順位會選Kris Dunn(PG)鵜鶘收工 Lin再去找買家
作者: downtoearth (東方耳號:)   2016-05-18 14:36:00
他球場應該不是埋球衣 應該是整個人埋下去了
作者: ibise (清了清喉嚨 他繼續唱著)   2016-05-18 17:30:00
推文好像沒人提到提到籃網, 籃網已經被排除了嗎?
作者: O10lOl01O ( ′▽`)   2016-05-18 19:00:00
這篇一開始就排除啦
作者: kinki999 (QQk(廢文被劣文中))   2016-05-18 19:31:00
因為籃網又不是這一組的
作者: clavi (CLLL)   2016-05-18 19:48:00
內文至少看一下吧..
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-18 20:00:00
標題看一下咩
作者: qazxswptt (...)   2016-05-18 21:48:00
全部看完 覺得能選的不多 還是重建或換血的隊值得考慮
作者: hasah (you are more than that)   2016-05-18 22:47:00
大概就籃網 小牛(DW離開) 黃蜂(<10M) 灰熊(conely離開)
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-19 00:36:00
最好去籃網 準備看林一版超級林迷亂黃蜂版戲碼再現
作者: Iversonchi (Farewell。)   2016-05-21 10:25:00
樓上是什麼意思啊...@@
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-21 12:12:00
就是沒有人的版還要跑去裝作那版的球迷嗆人結果發現沒人想理他從此沒出現過
作者: a7v333 (蠢與窮)   2016-05-21 13:23:00
拜託,黃蜂版也沒因為林到黃蜂而人數爆增,依然是冷門版要腦補請先去黃蜂版看看
作者: brownhusky (fuzzy)   2016-05-21 13:45:00
黃蜂版一開始也有專門去鬧的 但版主三兩下就收伏了?
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-05-21 13:45:00
有啦 剛加盟那幾天有HOT 後來又沒人了XDD
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-21 13:58:00
18124還跑去那邊PO文 嚇尿寶寶了 寶寶不說
作者: JBGPOIU (鈞)   2016-05-21 14:04:00
作者: springman (司布林)   2016-05-21 15:53:00
西區另外兩組還有分析嗎?等待中...
作者: goury   2016-05-22 06:38:00
18124叫做亂黃蜂板嗎 XDDD 果真腦喔...雖然當年他黃蜂那篇也被我酸火箭迷來了...
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-22 09:34:00
他沒說大師去鬧吧 是箭迷陰魂不散
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-22 11:58:00
我被說腦 p地下版主我要私信你!
作者: boyd1014 (David)   2016-05-22 21:17:00
歡迎光臨北韓~
作者: msk127 (殲滅太白粉)   2016-06-20 00:15:00
廢到笑 趕快退一退拉

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