[閒聊] 關於射手 @Meddler

作者: fkc (Mr. 男子漢)   2017-02-13 15:03:03
兩天前, R社鯉魚王 Meddler 跳出來
延續之前 ADC in 2017 的相關話題
《Some follow up marksmen thoughts》
縮: https://goo.gl/vk5Xqb
老樣子,內容節錄略翻:
......剩下交給貓大_(:3」ㄥ)_
Hi folks,
Figured it'd be good to touch base on our thoughts on Marksmen again after
talking about them at the start of the year.
Yo~年初我們聊過一次 ADC in 2017
現在再來聊一下吧!
◎Things that have changed since then:
有些事情(透過幾次patch)已經有所改變:
Jungler influence is down due to nerfs to XP and other systems. We increased
jungler influence unintentionally in the pre-season and have been reducing it
to around previous levels since.
打野已經被削弱(包含XP、其他部分)
季前版本打野的影響力被無意間大幅提升
如今已削弱到過往差不多的程度。
Courage of the Colossus is significantly weaker, reining back champions that
utilized it especially well in particular. Combination of that and jungle
stuff above's restored agency to a range of positions/champs, marksmen
included.
巨人勇氣 nerf 了一點,阻止許多利用這天賦的英雄繼續肆虐
結合這個 Nerf 和野區的改動
各位置的英雄,影響力恢復到到應有的範圍之內,包括 ADC;可喜可賀。
Lethality's been buffed since it wasn't serving the needs of a range of
physical damage dealers from multiple classes. That's given caster and early
game marksmen itemization to better serve their needs and we're seeing a lot
of success from them (and other lethality users) now as a result (too much so
in some cases).
先前由於物理致命的作用沒有達到物傷角色的需求,所以 Buff 了
讓物傷角色(技能型/遊戲前期的射手)在遊戲中有更好的影響力
而且,我們覺得這樣改很成功(有些又太成功了....)
We've made some changes to individual marksmen where appropriate (Draven,
Kalista, Lucian, Trist etc).
對一些個別的射手英雄進行了更新:達瑞文、克黎思妲、路西恩、崔絲塔娜
☆Current thoughts:
目前的想法
Utility marksmen (e.g. Ashe) seem to be in a reasonable spot. Caster/early
game marksmen (e.g. MF) are performing strongly too, too well in some cases.
Crit using marksmen (late game AA focused) however may need further item work
(not straight buffs, but adjustments to who they're strong/weak against when).
功能型射手 (例如:艾希)目前的表現很合理
技能型/遊戲前期射手 (例如:好運姊),表現優異,但有時候太強了
利用爆擊的射手 (普攻型射手) 需要更進一步的裝備更動
並非直接進行裝備數值加強
而是調整成: 隨著遊戲時間進行,角色應有的強/弱變化
Armor pen needs some followup changes after the Lethality buffs. Some of
that's Black Cleaver being too broadly appealing, leading to some excessive
strength sometimes when combined with Lethality. We'll be shifting BC to a
higher health/lower AD profile as a result. Longer term (mid season
potentially) we'll also likely take a larger look at the different armor pen
types. As a stop gap before that we're testing Last Whisper (the component of
Lord Dominick's and Mortal Reminder) having the same % pen as those upgrades,
but less AD as a safety valve against mid game armor stacking. plus a
reduction in the Lethality from Ghostblade and Masteries.
物理致命 buff之後,物理穿透(降物防)需要進一步更新
由於黑切的氾濫,配上物理致命,讓某些角色強的太誇張了
因此黑切會被改成生命值較高/物傷較低的版本
季中之前,會更加廣泛審視不同的物穿裝備
目前正在測試 最後耳語,打算保留原本的 %數物穿,但降低物傷
用以平衡遊戲中期,玩家利用這裝備對抗堆坦裝的角色
此外,也打算減少玩家從鬼刀和天賦中獲得的物理致命
We'll also probably be nerfing some individual marksmen in the near future.
Corki and Jhin are the most likely candidates.
之後,會Nerf 一些射手角色,中槍的是庫奇和燼
We'll be making changes to Fervor and Warlord's. Warlord's being an effective
default choice leads to a situation where you either take the thing that lets
you not lose lane or the thing that lets you be appropriately effective later
in the game IF you didn't get crushed too much in lane in the first place. We
want Warlord's to be more niche as a result.
天賦中的 軍閥血嗜 和 戰鬥狂熱 會進行改動
軍閥已一個變成默認選項
下路只要對線沒被打到阿罵都不認得
這天賦要嘛能讓射手能夠對線時不輸線,要嘛遊戲中期能發揮影響力
未來目標要把軍閥這個天賦改得更好一點(意義不明?)
We're not seeing other classes edge marksmen out of bot lane. So far Ziggs is
the only mage getting meaningful play as a farming bot laner and, while he
looks a bit strong, we're still happy with his presence there. Long term
we'll likely look at whether there are a couple of other mages we could get
into bot lane in a similar way (tower taking power's probably some of the
answer there)
尚未看到其他英雄把射手趕出下路
希格斯是目前唯一一個在下路好自在的法師角色,而且看起來有點強
R社仍然很開心看到希格斯出現在下路
長期來講,R社希望能看到再多兩支法師角色出現在下路
(拿塔能力,應該是R社目前思考的方向)
-End
『沒錯啦,這又是一篇廢文啦』
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作者: cherrycheese ($50)   2017-02-13 15:18:00
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