[討論] 如果 THE SON IS THE FATHER,

作者: ostracize (bucolic)   2020-10-23 18:35:05
如果 THE SON IS THE FATHER, AND THE SON IS ALSO THE SPIRIT.
請問1. 聖父是否釘在十字架上?請召會人士回應。
請問2. 馬可福音1:9~11:那時,耶穌從加利利的拿撒勒來,在約但河裡受了約翰的洗。
他從水裡一上來,就看見天裂開了,聖靈彷彿鴿子,降在他身上。又有聲音從天上來,說
:你是我的愛子,我喜悅你。
上述經文在馬太福音與路加福音皆有記載,聖父、聖子、聖靈,三者同時出現又明顯有別
。請問召會人士如何解釋?
請問3. 約翰福音14:16~17:我要求父,父就另外賜給你們一位保惠師(或作:訓慰師;
下同),叫他永遠與你們同在,就是真理的聖靈,乃世人不能接受的;因為不見他,也不
認識他。你們卻認識他,因他常與你們同在,也要在你們裡面。
上述經文說聖子耶穌基督稱聖靈保惠師是另外一位。請問召會人士如何解釋?
請問4. 馬太福音26:39~44:他就稍往前走,俯伏在地,禱告說:我父啊,倘若可行,求
你叫這杯離開我。然而,不要照我的意思,只要照你的意思。來到門徒那裡,見他們睡著
了,就對彼得說:怎麼樣?你們不能同我警醒片時嗎?總要警醒禱告,免得入了迷惑。你
們心靈固然願意,肉體卻軟弱了。第二次又去禱告說:我父啊,這杯若不能離開我,必要
我喝,就願你的意旨成全。又來,見他們睡著了,因為他們的眼睛困倦。耶穌又離開他們
去了。第三次禱告,說的話還是與先前一樣。
上述經文說聖子耶穌基督向聖父禱告,請問召會人士如何解釋?請問召會人士的意思說是
耶穌自己向自己禱告,自言自語嗎?
On the Nature of God
"The Son is called the Father; so the Son must be the Father. We must realize
this fact. There are some who say that He is called the Father, but He is not
really the Father. But how could He be called the Father and yet not be the
Father?... In the place where no man can approach Him (I Tim. 6:16), God is
the Father. When He comes forth to manifest Himself, He is the Son. So, a Son
is given, yet His name is called 'The everlasting Father.' This very Son who
has been given to us is the very Father."
Witness Lee, The All-Inclusive Spirit of Christ
(Los Angeles: The Stream Publishers, 1969), pp. 4-5
"...the entire Godhead, the Triune God, became flesh."
Witness Lee, God's New Testament Economy
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1986), p. 230
"The traditional explanation of the Trinity is grossly inadequate and borders
on tritheism. When the Spirit of God is joined with us, God is not left
behind, nor does Christ remain on the throne. This is the impression
Christianity gives. They think of the Father as one Person, sending the Son,
another Person, to accomplish redemption, after which the Son sends the
Spirit, yet another Person. The Spirit, in traditional thinking, comes into
the believers, while the Father and Son are left on the throne. When
believers pray, they are taught to bow before the Father and pray in the name
of the Son. To split the Godhead into these separate Persons is not the
revelation of the Bible...."
Witness Lee, Life Messages
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1979), p. 164
"THE SON IS THE FATHER, AND THE SON IS ALSO THE SPIRIT.... and the Lord Jesus
who is the Son is also the Eternal Father. Our Lord is the Son, and He is
also the Father. Hallelujah!"
Witness Lee, Concerning the Triune God
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1973), pp. 18-19
作者: df31 (DF-31)   2020-10-24 10:05:00
你連【經綸的三一】和【素質三一】都不懂。父不在十字架上,是【經綸三一】的問題好不好。我倒是好奇,當你受浸的時候,你得到的是父,子,還是聖靈?三選一,機會很大的!哈!美國cri就是在這個問題上栽了大跟斗,你還來哦!不過就是想把我們定為聖父受苦說罷了。。。

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