[閒聊] 經濟學人:冠軍靠的是車 不是車手

作者: croc (一塊錢)   2020-10-18 00:59:19
Engineers, not racers, are the true drivers of success in motor sport
原文出處:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/17/engineers-not-racers-are-the-true-drivers-of-success-in-motor-sport
摘要:
經濟學人引用Andrew Bell的數學模型分析F1,結論認為現代F1冠軍靠車比較多。
最優秀的F1車手不是舒馬赫,也不是小黑,而是Juan Manuel Fangio。
蠻有趣的文章。
“Ialways thought records were there to be broken,” Michael Schumacher, a
star Formula 1 (f1) driver, said in 2013. At the time, his record of 91
career f1 victories looked safe: the closest active racer had just 32. Yet on
October 11th Lewis Hamilton of Britain equalled the mark. Mr Hamilton is also
on pace to tie Mr Schumacher’s record of seven f1 championships later this
year.
Mr Hamilton’s ascent has ignited debate over whether he is f1’s best driver
ever. Comparing athletes across eras is always hard—especially in motor
sports, where a racer depends on his car. Moreover, f1 has regularly changed
its scoring system and its number of races, drivers and teams.
However, statistical analysis can address many of these nuances. We have
built a mathematical model, based on a study by Andrew Bell of the University
of Sheffield, to measure the impact of all 745 drivers in f1 history. It
finds that Mr Hamilton’s best years fall just short of those of the all-time
greats—but so do Mr Schumacher’s.
The model first converts orders of finish into points, using the 1991-2002
system of ten points for a win and six for second place. It adjusts these
scores for structural effects, such as the number and past performances of
other drivers in the race. Then, it splits credit between drivers and their
vehicles. (Today, f1 has ten teams, each using two drivers and one type of
car.)
Disentangling these factors is tricky. Mr Schumacher spent most of his peak
at Ferrari, as Mr Hamilton has at Mercedes, leaving scant data on their work
in other cars.
However, their teammates varied. And drivers who raced alongside Mr Hamilton
or Mr Schumacher tended to fare far better in those stints than they did
elsewhere. If Ferrari’s and Mercedes’ engineers boosted lesser racers this
much, they probably aided their stars to a similar degree. Because most
drivers switch teams a few times, this method can be applied throughout
history.
Between the two racers with 91 wins, the model prefers Mr Schumacher. He won
1.9 more points per race than an average driver would have done in the same
events and cars, edging out Mr Hamilton’s mark of 1.8. Limited to their five
best consecutive years, the gap widens, to 2.7 points per race for Mr
Schumacher and 2.0 for Mr Hamilton.
This difference stems mostly from the impact of their cars. Both stars raced
in the finest vehicles of their day. But 20 years ago, cars from Williams and
McLaren were nearly as strong as Ferrari’s. In contrast, Mercedes now towers
over its rivals, enabling Mr Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas, his teammate, to
coast past lesser cars. Before joining Mercedes, Mr Bottas had never won a f1
race. He now has nine victories.
Yet on a per-race basis, the greats of yesteryear beat both modern stars.
Three of the model’s top four drivers stopped racing by 1973; the leader,
the Argentine Juan Manuel Fangio, won five titles in the 1950s.
These pioneers had short careers. Fangio started just 51 races, to Mr
Schumacher’s 306. However, the model is impressed by them, because the
impact of cars relative to drivers has grown over time. On average, it
assigns drivers in the 1950s 58% of their teams’ points; today, that share
is 19%. Fangio, who was a mechanic by training and won titles using cars from
four different firms, was known as “the master”. The masters of modern f1
are engineers who sit behind laptops, not steering wheels.
作者: angerD (丹佐)   2020-10-18 01:00:00
感覺很有趣 來好好看完
作者: y095588063 (十三樓陽台)   2020-10-18 01:34:00
經濟學人 笑死 根本路邊小報
作者: cyc5566 (西哇西)   2020-10-18 01:39:00
冠個學人 我也是專業
作者: ian5king (南方的悲情)   2020-10-18 02:05:00
野雞雜誌
作者: Luvsic (FLCL)   2020-10-18 02:10:00
也不算太意外,反正Fangio一直都是GOAT之一
作者: sonans (邪惡的豬腦)   2020-10-18 03:52:00
分析「最強」竟然沒有Kimi?不準。
作者: walelile (wakaka)   2020-10-18 04:01:00
如果kimi最強,那不就證明他的論點
作者: Tom1202 (星爆氣流斬)   2020-10-18 07:49:00
噓貴古仔
作者: Boasoul (純情ビッチ!)   2020-10-18 08:08:00
靠車人還要穩啊 不然哪來的二奶車手說XD
作者: Vincent8026 (交大帥哥)   2020-10-18 08:19:00
前幾樓XDDD 那個梗超老耶
作者: wlsh (N/A)   2020-10-18 08:34:00
車的佔比的確很高 但是車比較快卻沒拿到WC的也很常有啊
作者: Nexvesk (幼貓)   2020-10-18 09:28:00
意思是現代f1比上古靠車的多
作者: x90417 (physicboy)   2020-10-18 09:35:00
好奇問,要怎麼知道以前的車手有沒有靠車?
作者: hazel0093 (heart-work.info)   2020-10-18 10:12:00
屁話,還需要模型證明喔
作者: kmwace (kmw)   2020-10-18 10:36:00
2樓的梗在我記憶中慢慢浮現XDDDDDDD
作者: supersd (阿拳)   2020-10-18 11:00:00
先決條件是為何要引用Andrew Bell的數學模型分析F1?他的模式在講啥?適合分析F1嗎?
作者: Nexvesk (幼貓)   2020-10-18 12:01:00
車是一大個團隊的產物,但對粉絲而已還是以營造車手本身的個人英雄主義比較有吸引力
作者: Scent56 (香民56)   2020-10-18 12:02:00
以前超多車手意外死亡的,有最好的車子還是要能活命啊
作者: frogsleep (frogsleep)   2020-10-18 12:05:00
舒米進法拉拉前,法家的狀況跟今年差不多,而且完賽率更低,法家的車變強跟舒米絕對有關係
作者: AppleApe   2020-10-18 12:47:00
野雞雜誌= =
作者: klpp26549871   2020-10-18 13:05:00
Ham粉群起圍攻
作者: chenghow (C大調)   2020-10-18 13:58:00
樓上看到大叔粉、vet粉、甚至kimi、Alo粉不會說話嗎?
作者: hydeless (海德)   2020-10-18 14:36:00
你有最好的車就不用拚那120%,穩穩輸出90%就會贏了
作者: x512319   2020-10-18 14:55:00
經濟學人跟法拉利的關係可不一般
作者: c780412 (煌)   2020-10-18 17:01:00
人不穩一樣烙賽
作者: wurick000 (Adolf Gott)   2020-10-18 23:01:00
Bono my tries are gone
作者: CLKGTR (最愛郭小姬)   2020-10-19 00:12:00
不靠車手是吧?那讓我來上場比賽如何?
作者: bass17 (真實)   2020-10-19 07:02:00
造車跟技術最好都是停在上古時代不會進步 就能比車手了
作者: wenhung (ares)   2020-10-19 09:29:00
他是再說阿爾札特
作者: walelile (wakaka)   2020-10-19 09:35:00
20 & 19年法拉利告訴你車重要還是人重要
作者: belion (滅)   2020-10-19 09:50:00
某年的地球車:??
作者: smallyu1102   2020-10-19 10:52:00
說大舒靠車我是不信拉,94年他沒撞Hill能拿WDC嗎?
作者: hazel0093 (heart-work.info)   2020-10-19 12:15:00
b194可能還不好說 但b195他隊友(某知名人物)拿了第四看一下大舒隊友的成績 如果掉出第三以外說不靠車就可以
作者: bob870507 (阿肥)   2020-10-19 12:16:00
啊不然勒 F1不靠車要用腳跑?
作者: nooneva (AVA)   2020-10-19 12:27:00
之前有個方程式聯盟,大家車都一樣,以國家隊做區分,最能看出車手的強弱,結果根本沒人看 XD
作者: kdeath   2020-10-19 14:13:00
A1
作者: grapesnake ( )   2020-10-19 14:34:00
A1-GP最大的問題不是統規車就是了...
作者: SUCKERKING   2020-10-19 14:39:00
A1沒人看的原因跟車都一樣無關。
作者: kazake (飛得位。江霞)   2020-10-20 08:46:00
車子要車手反饋調校到最佳狀態 沒有車手配合有辦法玩?
作者: numbtch236 (爺哥)   2020-10-20 11:17:00
這大家都知道
作者: shawnguo (尚恩)   2020-10-20 13:01:00
2樓好熟悉,記得是什麼realtw的帳號?求簽名檔支援
作者: ken720331 (肯)   2020-10-20 21:05:00
ㄚ阿斯拉出來的時候就是靠風見了
作者: courant   2020-10-20 23:35:00
一億年前就發現這道理,所以早就不看了XDDD,F1就是工程師的戰爭

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