[問卦] 同樣是女權 艾瑪華森 vs. 周芷萱 ?

作者: spin5566 (自旋五六)   2016-06-07 10:19:41
這段演說
想必不少人看過
是Emma Watson在2014年擔任聯合國親善大使的演講
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX3cgngINhI
譯者: Yi-Ling Huang
Today we are launching a campaign called “HeForShe.” I am reaching out to
you because I need your help. We want to end gender inequality—and to do
that we need everyone to be involved.
此時此刻,就是HeForShe運動的開始。我今天來到這裡,即是為了尋求你們的支持與協助
。我們的目標是終結性別不平等,唯有你們每一個人的參與,才能使這目標成為可能。
This is the first campaign of its kind at the UN: we want to try and
galvanize as many men and boys as possible to be advocates for gender
equality. And we don’t just want to talk about it, but make sure it is
tangible.
這是一場聯合國史上前所未有的運動:我們希望能刺激更多的男人與男孩站出來倡議性別
平等。我們堅持性別平等的實現,而不希望只停留在紙上談兵。
I was appointed six months ago and the more I have spoken about feminism the
more I have realized that fighting for women’s rights has too often become
synonymous with man-hating. If there is one thing I know for certain, it is
that this has to stop.
半年多前,我開始擔任聯合國的婦女親善大使。當我越公開討論女性主義,就越意識到,
為婦女爭取權益的運動常常淪為「仇恨男性」的同義詞。而我非常確定的是,我們不能再
繼續這樣看待女性主義了。
For the record, feminism by definition is: “The belief that men and women
should have equal rights and opportunities. It is the theory of the
political, economic and social equality of the sexes.”
我在此鄭重聲明,女性主義的定義是:「相信男人和女人都應該擁有平等的權利和機會,
女性主義所關心的是性別的政治、經濟和社會平等議題。」
I started questioning gender-based assumptions when at eight I was confused
at being called “bossy,” because I wanted to direct the plays we would put
on for our parents—but the boys were not.
8歲時,我因為要導一齣學校邀請父母觀賞的舞台劇,而被人說是「專橫霸道」(bossy)
,但同樣身為導演,男生卻不會被認為是「專橫霸道」,這點讓我百思不得其解,也是我
第一次開始對於性別角色的偏見提出質疑。
When at 14 I started being sexualized by certain elements of the press.
14歲時,某些媒體看待我的眼光開始充滿了性的暗示,將我物化。
When at 15 my girlfriends started dropping out of their sports teams because
they didn’t want to appear “muscly.”
15歲時,我發現身邊的女性朋友因為不想變成「金剛芭比」,紛紛退出了體育社團。
When at 18 my male friends were unable to express their feelings.
18歲時,我發現自己的男性朋友無法自在表露他們的情感。
I decided I was a feminist and this seemed uncomplicated to me. But my recent
research has shown me that feminism has become an unpopular word.Apparently I
am among the ranks of women whose expressions are seen as too strong, too
aggressive, isolating, anti-men and, unattractive.
因為這些緣故,我立志成為女性主義者,而且理由非常單純。但最近稍微研究之後,我發
現女性主義已經變成一種不受歡迎的名詞,很明顯地,我被歸類為太堅強、太強悍、太孤
僻、太仇視男人、甚至是沒有魅力的一種女人。
Why is the word such an uncomfortable one?
為什麼女性主義會這麼令人感到不舒服?
I am from Britain and think it is right that as a woman I am paid the same as
my male counterparts. I think it is right that I should be able to make
decisions about my own body. I think it is right that women be involved on my
behalf in the policies and decision-making of my country. I think it is right
that socially I am afforded the same respect as men. But sadly I can say that
there is no one country in the world where all women can expect to receive
these rights.
作為一名英國人,我認為身為一個女人,我應該與男性同事同工同酬;我認為自己身體
的決定權掌握在自己手裡;我認為英國的國家政策和公共決策應該要有女性代表我參與其
中;我認為身為女人,我在社會上應該獲得與男性同等的尊重。但不幸的是,我必須承認
,到目前為止,世界上沒有任何一個國家的女性能享有上述所有的權利。
No country in the world can yet say they have achieved gender equality.These
rights I consider to be human rights but I am one of the lucky ones. My life
is a sheer privilege because my parents didn’t love me less because I was
born a daughter. My school did not limit me because I was a girl. My mentors
didn’t assume I would go less far because I might give birth to a child one
day. These influencers were the gender equality ambassadors that made who I
am today. They may not know it, but they are the inadvertent feminists who
are. And we need more of those. And if you still hate the word—it is not the
word that is important but the idea and the ambition behind it. Because not
all women have been afforded the same rights that I have. In fact,
statistically, very few have been.
世界上沒有任何一個國家能說他們已經達到全然的性別平等。雖然我認為那些都是基本人
權,但事實上,我之所以能享有那些權利,純粹只是因為我比較幸運罷了。我的人生可說
是一路順遂(sheer privilege,直翻意思就是:純粹的特權人生),我父母不因為我是
女兒而對我付出較少關愛;我的學校不因為我是個女生而對我諸多限制;我的經紀公司也
不因為我可能日後會生小孩,而對於我的工作能力失去信心。這些對我影響極深的人都是
性別平等的使者,造就了今日的我。他們不經意的一言一行,其實都顯示了他們是女性主
義者,只是他們也許並不知道。我們需要的就是像他們那樣的人,而如果你仍然非常討厭
女性主義這個名詞,請記住,重要的不是名稱,而是背後的概念與企圖。因為現實世界裡
,沒有多少人能擁有像我一樣的好運,事實上,根據統計顯示,像我這樣的特例簡直是少
之又少。
In 1997, Hilary Clinton made a famous speech in Beijing about women’s
rights. Sadly many of the things she wanted to change are still a reality
today. But what stood out for me the most was that only 30 per cent of her
audience were male. How can we affect change in the world when only half of
it is invited or feel welcome to participate in the conversation?
希拉蕊.柯林頓於1997年時在北京做了一場關於女性權益的演講,遺憾的是,當年她努力
希望改善的問題至今仍然存在。我印象最深刻的是,當天演講的觀眾裡面只有30%的男性
。這世界上有半數的同胞是男性,若我們希冀改變世界的話,怎麼能夠只邀請或歡迎女性
參與那一場重要的對話呢?
Men—I would like to take this opportunity to extend your formal invitation.
Gender equality is your issue too.
而現在——我希望藉由這次機會,正式邀請男性朋友一起為性別平等努力,因為性別平等
也是與你們切身相關的議題。
Because to date, I’ve seen my father’s role as a parent being valued less
by society despite my needing his presence as a child as much as my mother’s.
其中一個理由是,雖然我同樣需要父親與母親,卻也看到即使到今天,我們的社會仍然十
分貶抑父親的親職角色。
I’ve seen young men suffering from mental illness unable to ask for help for
fear it would make them look less “macho”—in fact in the UK suicide is the
biggest killer of men between 20-49; eclipsing road accidents, cancer and
coronary heart disease. I’ve seen men made fragile and insecure by a
distorted sense of what constitutes male success. Men don’t have the
benefits of equality either.
我也看到許多男性因擔心開口尋求幫助是沒有男子氣概的表現,所以年紀輕輕就罹患精神
上的疾病,——事實上,英國20-49歲男人當中,有絕大多數死於自殺,比例甚至遠遠多
於交通意外、癌症和冠狀動脈血管疾病。我也看到不少男人因為扭曲的成功觀念而變得既
脆弱又缺乏安全感。換句話說,男人也從未獲得真正的性別平等。
We don’t often talk about men being imprisoned by gender stereotypes but I
can see that that they are and that when they are free, things will change
for women as a natural consequence.
雖然我們並不常討論到男人有多麼身陷於性別刻板印象的牢籠中,但我確實看到他們的禁
錮。而當他們不再受到挾制,自然而然就能扭轉女性的命運。
If men don’t have to be aggressive in order to be accepted women won’t feel
compelled to be submissive. If men don’t have to control, women won’t have
to be controlled.
如果男人不需要藉由逞兇鬥狠來獲得社會的認同,女人也不再需要被迫順從,如果男人不
需要控制人,女人也不再需要被控制。
Both men and women should feel free to be sensitive. Both men and women
should feel free to be strong… It is time that we all perceive gender on a
spectrum not as two opposing sets of ideals.
無論是男人或女人,都應該要能自在隨意地表露自己敏感的心情,無論是男人或女人,都
應該要能自在隨意地表現堅強的那一面。…現在這個時刻,我們都應該停止將性別視為互
相對立的理想特質,反而應該將性別視為程度不一、充滿了各種可能性的光譜。
If we stop defining each other by what we are not and start defining
ourselves by what we are—we can all be freer and this is what HeForShe is
about. It’s about freedom.
若我們不再隨意為彼此貼上莫須有的標籤,並開始認識、瞭解真正的自己,就能活得更加
自由,而這也是HeForShe 運動的目的,為要使人得自由。
I want men to take up this mantle. So their daughters, sisters and mothers
can be free from prejudice but also so that their sons have permission to be
vulnerable and human too—reclaim those parts of themselves they abandoned
and in doing so be a more true and complete version of themselves.
我希望男性朋友也能擔起這個角色,使你們的女兒、姊妹、母親都能從性別偏見中獲得解
放,並使你們的兒子從此能自在地表達脆弱、自在地表露真實的人性,重新拾回以前拋棄
的自我,同時透過改變,成為更真實、更完整的自己。
You might be thinking who is this Harry Potter girl? And what is she doing up
on stage at the UN. It’s a good question and trust me I have been asking
myself the same thing. I don’t know if I am qualified to be here. All I know
is that I care about this problem. And I want to make it better.
你心裡也許會想,這個演《哈利波特》的女生以為她是誰阿?跑來聯合國到底要做什麼?
這真是個好問題,也是我不斷自問的問題。我不知道自己是否有資格站在這裡,我只知道
我關心這個問題,而我想要改善這樣的情況。
And having seen what I’ve seen—and given the chance—I feel it is my duty
to say something. English statesman Edmund Burke said: “All that is needed
for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men and women to do
nothing.”
既然已經見識了某些事情的發生,又有幸來到這兒,因此,我總覺得自己有責任要說些什
麼。英國政治理論家柏克曾說:「惡者橫行霸道的唯一條件,就是善良男女的袖手旁觀。

In my nervousness for this speech and in my moments of doubt I’ve told
myself firmly—if not me, who, if not now, when. If you have similar doubts
when opportunities are presented to you I hope those words might be helpful.
當我因為這場演講感到非常緊張,或自我懷疑的時候,我都堅定地告訴自己:若我不做,
誰來做?若此刻不做,更待何時?如果你們也跟我一樣,在面臨機會時心生猶豫,希望這
些話能對你們有所幫助。
Because the reality is that if we do nothing it will take 75 years, or for me
to be nearly a hundred before women can expect to be paid the same as men for
the same work. 15.5 million girls will be married in the next 16 years as
children. And at current rates it won’t be until 2086 before all rural
African girls will be able to receive a secondary education.
若我們繼續坐以待斃的話,要等到女性能與男性同工同酬,恐怕得再等75年,或我預測大
約再過100年;未來16年內,會有大約1,550萬未成年少女被迫成為新娘,同時,按照目前
推廣義務教育的速度來推測,可能得到2086年,才有可能實現讓每一個非洲農村地區的女
童都接受高中教育的目標,這就是現實。
If you believe in equality, you might be one of those inadvertent feminists I
spoke of earlier.
如果你也主張性別平等,那麼你很可能就是我之前所定義的隱性女性主義者。
And for this I applaud you.
而我衷心地為你們喝采。
We are struggling for a uniting word but the good news is we have a uniting
movement. It is called HeForShe. I am inviting you to step forward, to be
seen to speak up, To be the he for she. And to ask yourself if not me, who,
if not now when.
一直以來,我們都朝著世界大同的目標努力,值得慶幸的是,現在出現了一項新的運動,
幫助我們團結世界各個角落,那就是HeForShe。此刻,我邀請大家站出來,讓眾人看見,
讓眾人聽見,讓自己成為男人,也成為女人。此刻,我們要自問的是:若我不做,誰來做
?若此刻不做,更待何時?
Thank you.
謝謝大家!
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全文不慍不火,相信任何有腦的人讀來都能明白
Emma Watson所要闡明的"性別平權"是什麼意思
小魯好奇的是
這麼簡單明暸的事情
怎麼到了台灣
就會冒出像周芷萱這種貨色
可以把女性主義講的這麼不入流?
老二陰道掛嘴邊講不停的
一下子約砲軟體洋男有水準愛台獨
不然就徐永明稱讚打美女牌是標準沙豬
整天在FB發言不及義的廢文
這貨還112
還想學人出來選立委
我都不敢想像她選上立委是什麼德性
這種人談台獨? 快笑死
有沒有好東西到台灣就變質的八卦?
作者: lolic (lolic)   2016-06-07 10:20:00
覽叫比雞腿 鮑魚比...鮑魚
作者: les5277 (小賭怡情,大賭興家。)   2016-06-07 10:20:00
我選艾瑪史東
作者: VVizZ (我很窮)   2016-06-07 10:20:00
愛馬華森有露過奶頭跟露過底
作者: liliumeow (給我鮭魚就跟你走><)   2016-06-07 10:20:00
周是誰我不知道 根本就八卦板自己愛傳
作者: DOOHDLIHC (董事長)   2016-06-07 10:20:00
別侮辱愛碼屈臣氏
作者: pokerhow (jokerhow)   2016-06-07 10:21:00
艾瑪我的
作者: ralph1120 (阿源仔)   2016-06-07 10:21:00
三樓沒圖沒真相
作者: LaodaIsHere (馬個b☆煞氣a小窄宅★)   2016-06-07 10:21:00
哈哈女權哈哈
作者: lovekangin (好人)   2016-06-07 10:21:00
Emma 海放 那個誰
作者: plus203ft (拿摸膩害)   2016-06-07 10:21:00
艾瑪史東很正,不過這篇應該是寫手而非本人
作者: tonyhom (偷你紅)   2016-06-07 10:22:00
一個正女權 一個偽女權真仇男 差這麼多
作者: aweiweek (aweiweek)   2016-06-07 10:22:00
一個女權勇者 一個母O
作者: logojuju55   2016-06-07 10:22:00
台大學生的邏輯,一般人比較跟不上
作者: linceass (ギリギリ愛 ~キリキリ舞~)   2016-06-07 10:22:00
覽O比雞腿...
作者: god829 (一陣風)   2016-06-07 10:22:00
太長 先推我老婆艾瑪
作者: iPad101 (~( ̄▽ ̄)~等好久捏)   2016-06-07 10:23:00
根本沒人知道周是誰,怎麼比
作者: tonyhom (偷你紅)   2016-06-07 10:23:00
112教出30K仇男 真的丟臉
作者: gameking5036 (請勿拍打餵食)   2016-06-07 10:24:00
妙麗
作者: ImBBCALL (摳機)   2016-06-07 10:24:00
人家正啊。周芷若只有九陰白骨爪
作者: dorydoze (dorydoze)   2016-06-07 10:25:00
不過艾瑪華森訴求的好像也在這裡被罵很慘
作者: cartoncat   2016-06-07 10:26:00
要不是八卦板愛貼周的廢文我根本不認識她。
作者: angelwu (討厭下雨)   2016-06-07 10:27:00
這篇我看完了 周的我連點進去都沒有
作者: ARTORIA   2016-06-07 10:27:00
外表學經歷都被屌打 這能比嗎...
作者: lesnaree2 ( )   2016-06-07 10:27:00
說個笑話 仇女板跟人家談女權
作者: alan0204 (このロリコンどもめ!!)   2016-06-07 10:28:00
周芷萱是誰 不是叫周芷若嗎
作者: pkmu8426 (巴426)   2016-06-07 10:29:00
別說啦 將來都輸機器人辣
作者: tonyy801101 (tonyy801101)   2016-06-07 10:29:00
國外歧視也很嚴重阿 只是她說的比較偏正向也好實行
作者: powertoolman (動力工具魔術師)   2016-06-07 10:30:00
低調噓 小心被吉
作者: MysticKnight (小散戶)   2016-06-07 10:31:00
Emma論點合理一萬倍 但仍然未清理那些仇男偽女權者一個仇男偽女權至少可以讓三個男性拒絕表態性別平等
作者: dorydoze (dorydoze)   2016-06-07 10:32:00
不對呀艾瑪華森訴求的同工同酬不是在這裡也被戰很多嗎?
作者: Slap5566 (叔仔扒56)   2016-06-07 10:33:00
不要拿懶X出來跟雞腿比好嗎 你會被噓
作者: MysticKnight (小散戶)   2016-06-07 10:33:00
幾個論點被戰不代表全盤否認阿
作者: gn02248917 (littledog)   2016-06-07 10:33:00
喜歡暖暖
作者: shawnxxx (阿模)   2016-06-07 10:33:00
你說那個把約炮當成世界的?
作者: MysticKnight (小散戶)   2016-06-07 10:34:00
而且被戰的時候 大多都是把偽女權拖出來當火藥Emma呼籲男性站出來表態性別平等 但應想想為什麼男性不願意站出來 就算其行為支持性平 仍拒絕表態
作者: dorydoze (dorydoze)   2016-06-07 10:37:00
說得一副只有男性是受害者似的
作者: lili300 (膝蓋中了一箭)   2016-06-07 10:38:00
八卦是 艾瑪這樣講之後還是被仇女男威脅騷擾
作者: MysticKnight (小散戶)   2016-06-07 10:38:00
這種仇男偽女權沒有責任?反正不清就永遠現狀下去說的好像男性中就沒有受害者一樣 笑死人了"Why is the word such an uncomfortable one?"Emma或許有回答到 但絕對不是完整答案
作者: w3160828 (kk)   2016-06-07 10:47:00
一個是女權 一個是母豬權 差那麼多
作者: judasprist (painkiller)   2016-06-07 10:49:00
周芷若格局太小了啦 只是敵視男性 像中二女 廢斃了
作者: skeric (寶寶剛)   2016-06-07 10:49:00
這兩個能比嗎???
作者: skyexers (g(y))   2016-06-07 10:51:00
女性主義可以區分為 追求兩性平等的女性主義;女權至高無上的女權主義 前者追求的是男女平等值得尊重 後者只是追求的是女權大於男權 一樣是性別歧視 不過女性歧視男性霸了
作者: mindsteam (24fps狸貓任務)   2016-06-07 10:54:00
艾瑪華森這篇演講真的很棒. 第二次看比第一次感觸更多.
作者: atzer2002 (Ace)   2016-06-07 11:01:00
台灣女權豬隊友
作者: fantacliff   2016-06-07 11:24:00
周芷若就是個傲嬌賤PU 無忌還好沒瞎了眼娶這隻母豬
作者: tc800627 (baci)   2016-06-07 11:32:00
都很棒啊

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