Re: [情報] Artosis回應DreamHack事件

作者: softseaweed (Gladys von Wackenheim)   2014-06-18 07:02:34
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: 看完的結果Artosis雖然和rdu談過,可是他還是有很多不確定的地方。太多地方充滿他的
: 猜測,然後現在還沒能力找出事實,太可笑了,都多久了?
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Artosis不過是一位主播,他今天發表的這篇文章主要目的絕對不是幫rdu洗白
他的目的是要檢討這次的過錯
: 縱然無罪推定好了,這還是掩飾不了主辦單位是白痴的事實。他護航hunter mark是很荒
: 謬的作弊方式。即便非rdu的本意下看到Amaz手牌內容,後續他是不是沒有作為繼續出牌
: ?如果他真的採用呢?如果他沒跟Artosis坦白當時的真正抉擇呢?
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As we all saw, RDU had the game won against Amaz, but of course he couldn’t
have known for certain that this is the case. If he knew that Amaz had Flare
that turn, he would have certainly Alexstraza’d himself, and then lost a
turn or two later. Because the game was not winnable vs a Flare, he took the
(correct) risk to decide the game then by Alexstrazaing Amaz. This was really
the only line of play that made sense. I’m not the best Hearthstone player
in the whole world, but I saw and thought this. I talked to the other pros,
and they have all agreed with this line of play. I’d like to hear if any pro
disagrees and thinks using Alexstraza on himself was a reasonable play in
that spot.
跟我們看到的一樣,RDU的確在當下已經贏了Amaz(紅龍噴獵人那回合),但是當然他並沒有
完全認知到自己已經贏了的事實。如果他認為Amaz有flare,他應該會很確定的紅龍自己,
然後在一兩回合之後落敗。因為那場遊戲沒辦法靠紅龍RDU自己來獲勝,他選擇了承擔(正
確)的風險來紅龍Amaz以換取勝利的機會。這在當時是為一合理的打法。我不是最好的爐石
玩家,但是我看到了當時的局面也想到了同樣的解法。我跟其他職業玩家也討論過,他們
也同意這在當時的確是最合理的玩法。我也想聽聽看有沒有其他職業玩家不認為紅龍Amaz
是正確的選擇。
: Artosis可以一廂情願以“他自己”認為無“明白事證”,那其他人就不能用別種可能性
: 來質疑?會傷害到17歲的少年?別開玩笑了,一來我們無法確切得知rdu的犯意(他單方
: 說沒有我們能怎樣),二來真正造因傷害rdu的是他們那群主辦單位(密語的也是)。
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: 面對極度爭議的狀況、不能確定是否rdu想作弊的情形下,主辦單位居然不重賽?以當時A
: maz手牌推定不影響他輸的結果所以這樣決斷?
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NO ONE TOLD AMAZ WHAT WAS GOING ON
This is by far the worst part of everything. I am in complete shock and
disbelief that Amaz was not told about this situation while they were looking
into what was going on.
這是目前為止整個事件中最糟糕的部分。我感到震驚,並且無法相信Amaz沒有被告知當時
主辦單位在檢視這個問題時到底發生了甚麼事情。
: 太可笑了,如果說作弊不影響結果就沒差,那酒駕沒撞死人是不是無罪?照此標準以後面
: 對作弊爭議,我只要以小綿羊姿態說我不是故意、我是無辜的,是否就能兩手拍拍裝作沒
: 這回事蒙混過去?反正不會重比嘛,當我賺到囉~
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: 然後提到Amaz人很好(趁機發好人卡嗎?)他有資格抗議卻沒這麼做。窩草Amaz人好關Ar
: tosis什麼屁事?這是在暗示Amaz不珍惜自己的權利嗎?我幹他娘親的主辦單位,Amaz有
: 儒家反求諸己的優點,先思考自己的不足,可這不代表他媽你主辦就可以把責任推到Amaz
: 身上,真是會順水推舟啊~
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Amaz is one of the nicest and fairest guys that I’ve met. I really do not
think that he’s the type of guy who would use a technicality to get a
regame, or an advantage. When it was decided that the series would continue,
I thought (as everyone else must have thought) that Amaz was told what was
going on. You have to inform the players. In my opinion, they have he right
to argue and possibly lodge a complaint about a ruling. Amaz was not given
this chance to lodge a complaint (which, and I’m just guessing here, he may
not even have done) .
Amaz是我認識的人之中最好且最善良的人之一。我真的不認為他是那種會用比賽規則來
申請重賽來爭取重賽或是優勢的人。當大會決定比賽將繼續舉行時,我(跟大家可能一樣)
當時想的是Amaz已經被告知發生了甚麼事(RDU有收到密語)。你必須要告知選手們。在我看
來,Amaz的確有權利可以上訴並且爭取裁定。Amaz當時並沒有被給予這個機會(而我猜他
可能也沒有爭取)。
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Artosis是在說Amaz是在比賽結束後才被告知RDU有被密語,因此Amaz當下沒有上訴很正常
。這有在暗示甚麼嗎? 我只看到Artosis在暗示大會的不周而已。
: 一個機制不嚴謹的比賽、一群腦殘邏輯的亂下決斷的主辦、一個極有可能作弊的17歲屁孩
: ,通通都是受害人、通通無罪推定,那我想請問誰是兇手?是鬼嗎?哩尬哇騙孝耶!
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