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I know I’m preaching to the choir here. I know the horse is dead and buried.
We’ll talk about something else tomorrow, I promise. But, today, I have one
final thought on the MVP discussion, and specifically, about the idea that a
player on a non-playoff team has limited value. As Mark Bauman put it:
今天我想發表一個關於MVP票選爭論點的看法
The Angels finished third in the AL West. Without Trout, where would they
have finished? Unless you believe that they would have been 15 games worse
without Trout, the correct answer would still be third.
The Tigers finished first in the AL Central, after a substantial struggle
and a period of underachievement. Their subsequent advance to the World
Series, of course, has no place in this election. But they did manage to make
a push late in the regular season to overtake the White Sox and qualify for
the postseason.
Mark Bauman寫到: "天使有沒有Trout都是老三 老虎靠著Cabrera才逆轉白襪"
This is, for a lot of voters, a big issue. Cabrera’s team made the playoffs,
and they wouldn’t have without him. Trout’s team didn’t make the playoffs,
and they could have not made the playoffs even if he spent the whole year in
the minors. So how valuable could Trout really have been?
簡單說 天使有沒有Trout都沒差 所以Trout的價值如何?
To that question, I’ll ask one of my own – if you really buy into that
argument, how can Trout even appear anywhere on your ballot?
如果你信這套 那Trout怎麼還能出現在選票上?
The Tigers won the AL Central by three games. Take away Miguel Cabrera and
they don’t win the division. But, take away Justin Verlander, they don’t
win the division either. Take away Prince Fielder, they don’t win the
division. Take away Austin Jackson, they don’t win the division. Besides
Cabrera, there are at least three Tigers who were clearly worth more than
three wins, and you could make a good case for Max Scherzer and Doug Fister
as well.
老虎拿到Cabrera不會進季後賽 拿掉肥王子不會進季後賽 拿掉Jackson不會進季後賽
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How about on the Yankees? They won their division by two games, and finished
five games ahead of Tampa Bay, the team with the best record that didn’t
qualify for the postseason. Robinson Cano and CC Sabathia were worth five
wins to the Yankees, right? And, if you think defensive metrics are total
bunk, maybe even Jeter was too.
洋基拿掉Cano和CC也不會進季後賽
Same deal with Baltimore and Texas, who just snuck into the last wild card
spot by the same margin as which Detroit won the AL Central. Do we not think
Adam Jones or Matt Wieters were worth at least three wins to the Orioles this
year? How about Adrian Beltre, Josh Hamilton, Yu Darvish, or Matt Harrison –
were they not worth at least three wins apiece to the Rangers?
金鶯拿掉Adam Jones/Matt Wieters不會進季後賽
遊騎兵拿掉Adrian Beltre/Josh Hamilton/Yu Darvish/Matt Harrison
In every single case, you take them off their team, and the difference is
likely making the playoffs versus not making the playoffs. They were all
excellent players, and without them, their teams probably wouldn’t have made
it to October. Why is Mike Trout more valuable than every single one except
for Cabrera?
所以說 以上球員都比Trout更關鍵 為什麼Trout比這些人都更有價值 除了Cabrera以外?
If a major determining factor in a player’s value is his team’s
qualification for the playoffs, Trout shouldn’t finish in the top 10. There
were a lot of great players who helped carry their teams to the playoffs.
Trout isn’t one of them, and if that’s enough to exclude him from being
most valuable, why isn’t he excluded from being second most valuable? How do
we justify the idea that Trout is less valuable than Cabrera because of the
Tigers playoff status, but still more valuable than Verlander, who is the
reigning AL MVP and had another great season?
如果進季後賽事決定球員價值的關鍵 那Trout完全不應該出現在前十票選
比Trout更能決定戰局的球員多太多了
If our goal is to really identify the “most valuable” player and not the “
best” player, why do we start with a list of the best players, and then only
use a team’s playoff position as a divider, rather than starting with a list
of guys who made the playoffs and then deciding who was the best from that
group?
為什麼要從兩位球員中 選一位進季後賽的
而非從一群季後賽球員中 選一位最好的?
Is it, perhaps, because we know that a great player on a non-playoff team can
be more valuable than a good player on a playoff team? Isn’t that what we’
re inherently all agreeing to when Trout finishes ahead of Verlander,
Fielder, Cano, Beltre, Hamilton, and the rest?
難道是說 因為我們知道沒進季後賽的球員可能比進季後賽的球員更有價值?