[情報] 海盜PSU總監反駁「海盜使用最便宜代工」

作者: cody880528 (Summon)   2020-05-26 17:31:45
https://bit.ly/36xdMlF
在爬SF750相關文章的使用又爬到這篇留言 覺得蠻有趣的
原PO (看帳號紀錄應該是台灣人 可能是鄉民):
Corsair product is not cheap, but they find the cheapest manufacturer.
SF750 is made by Chinese company call "Greatwall", the third-class power
manufacturer in China. I am not surprised when I saw Corsair PSU failure with
these Chinese vendor.
I hope Corsair stop offer PSU order to these Chinese manufacturer. In
contrast, FSP, DELTA, SEASONIC, these factory which located in Taiwan have
better quality.
海盜船的產品不便宜,但他們卻找最便宜的代工廠。
SF750是由一家叫做「長城」的中國公司做的,那是中國的三等製造商。中國製造的海盜
船PSU故障我完全不意外。
我希望海盜停止向中國廠商下單。相反的,全漢、台達、海韻,這些在台灣的工廠品質比
較好。
成功釣到海盜船PSU總監回應:
No offense, but you know absolutely nothing about what you are speaking of.
1st: Seasonic, FSP and Delta do NOT manufacture in Taiwan. They are merely
Taiwan based. In fact, ALL power supplies for ATX/SFX PC's are manufactured
in China. Even factories in Taiwan and Vietnam use "semi-knockdown kits"
(SKD) that were initially made in China and only the final assembly is done
off short.
2nd: Seasonic isn't even a tier one. They have great engineering, but PCBA,
etc. is all outsourced. Only final assembly is done at Seasonic's CHINA
factory.
3rd: If FSP made a PSU as good as Great Wall, Corsair would use them. But FSP
is hung up on their active clamp reset forward topology and until they decide
to enter the 21st century and use LLC resonant like everyone else, they're
out of contention.
4th: Delta is too focused on producing for white box PSUs for the likes of
Dell, etc. You'll note that there hasn't been a Delta made retail unit in
nearly a decade (Antec?)
5th: Great Wall is not "third class". In fact, they're actually a tier one.
All of their manufacturing is done in house. They're actually the largest PSU
manufacturer in China.
沒有惡意,但你完全不知道你自己在講什麼
1. 海韻、全漢、台達根本不在台灣製造。他們只是總部在台灣而已。事實上,所有ATX/
SFX的電腦電源供應器都是中國製造。連台灣和越南的工廠都是用原本中國製的散料裝
(semi-knockdown kits),而且也只負責最後階段的組裝
2. 海韻根本也不是Tier 1。他們的工程技術很棒,但是電路板組裝(PCBA)等,全部都是
外包的。只有最後階段的組裝是在海韻的中國工廠完成。
3. 如果全漢做的PSU能和長城的一樣好,海盜就會選全漢了。但是全漢還卡在他們的
ACRF拓樸(ctive clamp reset forward),在他們打算進入21世紀並且改和所有其他
人一樣使用LLC諧振槽電路前,他們完全不在競爭內
PS https://wolflsi.pixnet.net/blog/post/68304246
之前狼大評測鋼彈的時候可以看到鋼彈的Ripple表現並不好,就和ACRF有關
4. 台達忙著幫戴爾等做白盒PSU。你可以發現近十年都沒有台達製的零售PSU (Antec?)
5. 長城並不是「三流」。事實上,他們其實是Tier 1。他們所有的製造都是在內部完
成的。而且他們是中國最大的PSU製造商。
作者: jackwula9211 (Carbon.)   2020-05-26 17:36:00
但長城炸了。
作者: fantasyhorse (水多多)   2020-05-26 17:36:00
全漢還在用forward架構???低毛利台達不肯做吧, 這種代工毛利率都不高看隔壁team幫CM代工都cost down到極致
作者: simonohmygod (曼聯魂)   2020-05-26 17:40:00
這篇好像蠻有趣的 推一下
作者: fantasyhorse (水多多)   2020-05-26 17:40:00
不過這總監沒說錯, PC power早就全都made in china.樓上ID不易外XDXD代工毛利率低..diy量又少,當然不太想做
作者: bluesapphire (Blue Sapphire)   2020-05-26 18:01:00
好文
作者: zweihander99 (zweihander)   2020-05-26 18:11:00
笑死,想推薦被打臉
作者: Luciferspear   2020-05-26 18:22:00
好多神獸浮上哈哈
作者: freeblizzard (What Have I Done?!)   2020-05-26 18:23:00
但你家的高階系列都找海韻欸…想cost down就說啊 海盜慢走不送
作者: iloveyou1019 (digits31)   2020-05-26 18:33:00
樓上小心挨告台灣人是很善良的,來個促銷補償吧
作者: zxcasdjason1 (nice_Sky)   2020-05-26 19:10:00
看完這回覆我打死不再買這家貨 口吻有夠囂張炸了也是事實 完全沒要對這點回應貴不是重點,同樣代工廠品質相似,但這處理態度不值得多花錢。重點不是長城長還是短,是你家產品爆炸,還有也承認有問題,啊後續有沒有要耐心處理,嘴消費者我還以為暴雪勒請問全漢有爆炸過的苦主嗎 好奇
作者: fantasyhorse (水多多)   2020-05-26 19:54:00
power哪有不炸的,如果有 只是你沒遇到除非像這次品管問題整批炸的,不然偶爾炸根本很正常
作者: strollinrain   2020-05-26 21:02:00
故意漏CM?
作者: bluesapphire (Blue Sapphire)   2020-05-26 22:03:00
如果他說其他幾家現況玩法都沒錯,那也沒啥好澄清阿

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