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作者: a343408065 (寂寞東京鐵塔) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [爆卦] 葛特曼自己記憶錯亂的關鍵證據
時間: Wed Sep 5 23:44:27 2018
現在活摘器官事件中最大的爭點就在於
柯文哲知不知情
事實上民進黨新潮流柯黑第一大將梁文傑自己也承認
原文關於柯文哲的訪談的那段內容就寫的模模糊糊
我剛好找到了葛特曼2016年接受美國ABC新聞專訪談中國活摘器官
裡頭他有談到更多關於柯文哲的訪談細節
看完之後 就可以確定葛特曼把柯文哲和其他人的角色搞混了
至於柯文哲為什麼當初沒有發現葛特曼弄錯或是溝通不良
就要問他自己了
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2016/s4511091.htm
Does China kill prisoners to order for the trade in organ transplants?
中國是否會逮捕囚犯以訂購器官移植手術？
以下我只擷取柯文哲的部分翻譯
MARK COLVIN: And when you get these accounts, obviously one of the things
that any journalist does is to try and cross index if you like the kind of
details that they give. How does that stack up?
MARK COLVIN:
當你得到這些記述時，顯然任何記者會做的事情之一就是，如果你喜歡他們給出的細節，
就會試著交叉索引。這是怎麼建構起來的？
ETHAN GUTMANN: Well that's pretty interesting because we do have a couple of
doctors who've come out on the record. So we have that, we also have the now
mayor of Taipei, Doctor Ko Wen-je, who went to China to look for organs, to
suss out the situation, the organ situation for his clinic.
ETHAN GUTMANN:
這很有意思，因為我們確實有幾位醫生出現在記錄中。所以我們有了這些記述，我們現在
還有現任台北市市長柯文哲醫師提供的記述，他到中國尋找器官，為他的診所探查器官的
的情況。
And he wanted to talk to the doctors about prices among other things at this
hospital, he wanted to see if he could get the Chinese price, not the
foreigner price for organs. And they got to know him a bit, they liked him,
and they said okay look we know you're, we're gonna give you the Chinese
price and they said we also know you're pretty concerned about these organs
coming from prisoners, because you know they're a lot of drug addicts and
these people live hard lives.
We want to assure you all these organs are coming from Falun Gong. These
people, they don't drink, they don't smoke, they're very health really. So...
而且他想和那些醫生談談這家醫院裡其他東西的價格，他想知道他是否可以得到中國的價
格，而不是開給外國人的器官價格。他們稍微認識了他，他們喜歡他，他們說好的，看我
們了解你，我們會給你中國人的價格，他們說我們也知道你非常擔心這些來自囚犯的器官
，因為你知道他們是很多吸毒成癮者，而這些人生活很困苦。
我們要向你保證所有這些器官都來自法輪功。這些人，他們不喝酒，他們不抽菸，他們真
的很健康。所以...