節錄一些賽後討論
其中有些提到了EU、NA賽區強度的檢討
也有講到LMS賽區的改進使得TW隊伍進步
[–]sasssoooo [分數隱藏] 34 minutes ago
taiwan has always been underrated, people called ahq's win vs edg at worlds a
fluke, and yoe beating sk an "upset". in reality, they haven't ever been
worse than na and eu at all lol (season 3 gama got skt and were boned,season
4 ahq got hardest group and tpa choked after good game 1).
台灣一直以來都被低估，大家一直說ahq很僥倖才贏下對edg的比賽，而yoe也是因為sk的
失常才獲勝。
實際上，他們完全沒有比na和eu差。
(S3時橘子熊遇到skt被淘汰，s4時ahq被分到最艱困的小組，而tpa在打完第一場好比賽之
後完全失常。)
[–]Khumalo_Neurochem [分數隱藏] 33 minutes ago
Crumbz did key on it, ahq just gets better as the tournament goes on. Tsm
doesn't seem to be making anywhere near the same level of adjustments.
Crumbz說到重點，ahq隨著比賽進行越來越進入狀況。
TSM似乎沒有做出任何能夠達到相同水平的調整。
[–]SkoutiOP [分數隱藏] 32 minutes ago
this one is for the people that though AHQ beating fnatic is an upset. :)
這場是給那些覺得ahq打敗fnatic是因為fnc失常的人看的
[–]iciale [分數隱藏] 26 minutes ago
Hell yeah, AHQ so underrated coming in. I hate to see the western teams
getting hit so hard, but so happy that AHQ is showing up again.
喔耶！ahq剛開始是多麼的被低估！我討厭看到西方隊伍被打得這麼慘，但是也很開心ahq
再一次展現實力。
[–]SkoutiOP [分數隱藏] 22 minutes ago
I was chatting with my friends telling them AHQ will finish 3rd and they were
giving me so much shit.
Now they are silent.
我告訴我朋友ahq將會得到第三名，結果被他們笑到爆。
現在他們沉默了。
[–]iciale [分數隱藏] 20 minutes ago
That's it, that's what i like to hear :)
[–]careslol [分數隱藏] 32 minutes ago
Taiwan has been underrated prior to S2 worlds. Taiwan has been still
underrated after TPA won S2.
台灣在S2之前曾經被低估，在S2拿到冠軍後還是被低估。
[–]brodhi[Toxic Salt] (NA) [分數隱藏] 32 minutes ago
I think people view Taiwan as a weaker region because they have never
replicated their success since TPA. No Taiwanese team has came into Worlds
and shown such a mastery of the game and sheer skill of play that TPA showed
at S2 WC.
Taiwan is a strong region, they just have not showed up at Worlds for 2 years
in a row.
我想大家覺得台灣是個比較弱的區域是因為他們沒能複製TPA的成功。在S2的TPA之後，沒
有一個台灣隊伍能夠在世界舞台展現出統治力和技術。
台灣是個厲害的區域，他們只是沒能在過去兩年中表現自己罷了。
[–]iciale [分數隱藏] 30 minutes ago
They haven't been given the best chances to show up honestly imo. TPA choked
in groups last year yeah, but AHQ took a game from EDG in a hard as fuck
group for them to get out of. Gama Bears in s3 was meh because Taiwan only
got 1 worlds bid and it went to a team that wasn't probably the best in the
region, but performed an amazing loser's bracket gauntlet in regionals. Gama
Bears also had to face SKT too, further hurting chances to get anywhere lol
我覺得他們從來沒有得到表現自己的好機會。TPA去年失常，不過AHQ在極難出線的小組中
從EDG手上拿下一勝。S3的橘子熊的話表現普普通通，因為台灣只拿到一個隊伍的代表權
而這個隊伍甚至不是他們區域最好的。不過他們在地區資格賽中來了個驚人的大反攻。
‧ [–]Blauwvinger [分數隱藏] 32 minutes ago
I would call group C harder than group A last Worlds, but you still make some
valid points. Most of it seems to just be AHQ being really strong though
我會覺得去年的世界賽中，C組比A組更艱困。不過你還是點出了一些關鍵。AHQ實力就真
的很強。
[–]AnEternalSkeptic [分數隱藏] 31 minutes ago
People have been saying it since season 2 worlds my friend...
Taiwan shares many strengths with China - strong skirmish and team fight play
and good ad carry players. Biggest issue is their lack of rotation play which
really hampered their growth
大家從S2就有在講…
台灣跟中國有很多相似的優點──強大的團戰能力以及良好的adc玩家。而他們最大的問
題是缺乏輪轉換線，導致發育受到阻礙。
[–]ErectNips6969 [分數隱藏] 31 minutes ago
I hear Taiwan did pretty good in Season 2 World Championship too!
[–]36105097 [分數隱藏] 30 minutes ago
At some point, people have to acknowledge that mechanics do matter alot.
某些方面來說，你們得承認操作上的差異影響很多。
[–]Nergral [分數隱藏] 27 minutes ago
making the LMS really really stepped up the level of play for those teams,
since the competition lvl wasnt nearly as close as it is right now, just look
at SEA right now struggling @ WC tournament... s3 SEA top teams were bad, s4
they were ok BUT they were slightly behind others (as it could've been seen
in their games , they wouldnt get shat on and it took quite an effort to win
against them but they mostly just didnt have enough to actually win)
自從LMS中的隊伍實力相近之後，LMS的水準進步很多。看看SEA賽區在WC tournament
中的表現，s3的SEA前幾名隊伍真的很差，s4就還可以，然而他們還是稍微落後其他賽
區。
[–]HULKHULK91 [分數隱藏] 26 minutes ago
I agree with you. Taiwan region is really underrated. Teams like AHQ, YOE or
TPA would be nr1 in Eu or NA
我同意。台灣賽區真的被低估了。AHQ、YOE、TPA在EU或NA都可以成為第一名的隊伍。
(HKE:咦?)
[–]InfiniteMaoi [分數隱藏] 26 minutes ago
My personal opinion is that LMS deserve 3 spots at worlds , from s3 till now
LMS as a region got rly strong and looks much much better than both EU and NA
. As an EU resident im quite sad about EUs games so far but this needs to be
"punished" by taking away 1 worlds spot for both EU and NA as a wake up call.
我個人覺得LMS值得在世界賽中擁有三個席次。
從S3至今，LMS區域成為一個很強的區域，而且看起來比EU和NA強多了。
身為一個歐洲人，我對於EU的隊伍至今為止的表現很失望。我覺得為了讓EU和NA的隊伍醒
覺，我們必須要拿掉EU和NA各一個世界賽席次做為懲罰。
[–]NaexiQ [分數隱藏] 26 minutes ago
They aren't a bad region by any means but the power difference in the games
we've seen shouldn't be this big.
他們從來都不是一個差勁的地區。但是我們也不該在比賽中看到這麼大的實力落差。
[–]oioioi9537 [分數隱藏] 26 minutes ago
Yeah, it seems as though since all stars last year, Taiwan has really stepped
up. im actually super impressed by ahq this tournament, i think greentea's
retirement and move to analyst helped them a lot
看來在去年的all star之後，台灣真的努力進步了。我真的對於ahq這次的表現印象深刻
，我想綠茶退居幕後擔任分析師對他們幫助很大。
[–]Divinicus1st [分數隱藏] 33 minutes ago
Hopefully, TSM is so far ahead of NA, NA chances have never been so high
[–]DystopiaX [分數隱藏] 32 minutes ago
it's sad that TSM is far and away the best team in NA and they get stomped by
asian teams this hard.
令人難過的是TSM在NA是遙遙領先的最強隊伍，但是他們被亞洲隊伍打爆了。
[–]Redhawk1230 [分數隱藏] 27 minutes ago
I just don't get it man, remember AHQ was the team that got bodyslammed by
EDG, that means EDG and SKT are just so ahead of the EU and NA teams now
since AHQ can convincily beat both of them.
Its the same rinse and repeat everyyear "asian teams so weak, NA can be a
contender for worlds"
我不明白啊！我還記得ahq之前被EDG屌打，這表示EDG和SKT遙遙領先EU和NA。因為AHQ同
樣屌打EU和NA。
然而我們每年都這樣說：「亞洲隊很弱，NA放眼全世界還是很有競爭力。」
[–]DystopiaX [分數隱藏] 25 minutes ago
EDG and SKT are far ahead of EU/NA teams, anyone who thought otherwise was
fooling themselves/didn't actually watch LCK/LPL at all.
That being said though I think EDG and SKT are ahead of their own regions by
a significant margin as well, part of the false hope business is that TSM
beat mid-tier Asian teams. So I think realistically TSM is around mid-tier if
they were to play in Korea/China.
EDG和SKT遙遙領先歐美隊伍。任何不這麼認為的人都是在自欺欺人或者是從來沒看過LCK
和LPL。
然而我覺得EDG和SKT在他們各自的賽區還是極其頂尖，我們或許可以幻想TSM能擊敗亞洲
中段的隊伍吧。
所以我覺得TSM假如放在韓國/中國賽區大概有中段隊伍的實力。
[–]Redhawk1230 [分數隱藏] 18 minutes ago
Yeah, but i actually bought into the Tsm hype thinking they could take some
games or EDG/SKT
Not a really big tsm fan but boy even i was disappointed
我曾經相信TSM可能可以擊敗EDG/SKT。
雖然不是個TSM超級粉絲，我還是挺失望的。
[–]DystopiaX [分數隱藏] 16 minutes ago
I think people thought TSM were a lot better than they actually were because
they were playing against other NA teams, while EDG/SKT were playing against
China/KR teams. So you see TSM clean wins and stomps and EDG/SKT winning but
not much more convincingly than TSM and you think they have a chance, until
you realize that part of that is the leagues EDG/SKT are playing in are so
much better.
我想大家是因為TSM擊敗了NA其他隊伍才覺得他們是一個比實際上還要厲害許多的強隊。
然而EDG/SKT也擊敗了中國和韓國所有隊伍。
所以當你看到TSM輕鬆屌打其他隊伍，而EDG/SKT沒像TSM那麼輕鬆獲勝時，你會覺得TSM有
機會，直到你發現這是因為EDG/SKT所在的區域強很多。
[–]PsykeSC [分數隱藏] 31 minutes ago
And it was the case during the season, but they have truly been playing
horrible so far in MSI.
而且這是在賽季中的時候，他們在MSI真的打得很爛。